Friday, 2009-03-27

../irclogs/#mantishelp.2009-03-27.log
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mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10262 - bernat - open - new00:38
mantisbotNew bug: Update Catalan translation - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1026200:38
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10263 - dhx - open - new06:05
mantisbotNew bug: Implement g_bug_closed_status_threshold option to allow custom closed status - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1026306:05
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10264 - klessa - open - new06:05
mantisbotNew bug: Can't successfully add and log on new accounts - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1026406:05
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10265 - dhx - open - new07:05
mantisbotNew bug: Bug view advanced page spacing bug when no versions defined for project - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1026507:05
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10266 - miki000 - open - new10:01
mantisbotNew bug: Assign bug to more users? - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1026610:01
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10267 - miki000 - open - new10:21
mantisbotNew bug: Report and assign one bug to more project - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1026710:21
giallusigh11:18
nuclear_eclipsemorning all12:26
philosomatikerhi ... is there a way to create a user without directly hacking the password in the database?14:30
philosomatikerand .. without sending an email to this account ....14:30
nuclear_eclipseno, not currently14:32
killefiznuclear_eclipse: sure? I thought that this would work if you disable email in the config.14:39
nuclear_eclipseno, I'm not sure :P14:39
killefizphilosomatiker: try setting setting $g_enable_email_notification = OFF in config* and let us know if that worked14:46
nuclear_eclipsekillefiz: that disables  email notifications of bug updates, not the password email...14:46
philosomatikeryeah, i kind of read this setting like nuclear_eclipse  :(14:47
nuclear_eclipse"$g_send_reset_password = OFF" will just default passwords to blank, if that works for you...14:48
killefizhmm ... I'm pretty sure that there was a way to get a password-entry field when creating new users as admin14:48
philosomatikerwell, i hope so nuclear_eclipse  ;) ... just testing a bit around ... my boss wants to bugtrack with mantis or with JIRA ... i would like to work with mantis ;)14:51
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10268 - dhx - open - new16:18
mantisbotNew bug: Add new stick/unstick button to html_buttons_view_bug_page - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1026816:18
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10269 - alexy - open - new16:18
mantisbotNew bug: Incorrect email subjects - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1026916:18
mib_wyavr3Probando17:09
setuidhrm, interesting widget19:08
setuidSaw the recent emails going by about Mantis behind a proxy, and I have to say... I've been running Mantis behind our proxy for ~8 years, without a single problem, ever.19:08
setuidGranted, it's Squid, and configured correctly, and I'm not using the default config of course, but....19:09
nuclear_eclipsesetuid: well, there are apparently some proxy servers that don't properly handle/propogate the caching headers from Mantis, so they end up reusing pages from one user for another when they shouldn't be19:09
nuclear_eclipseor something of that sort19:10
nuclear_eclipseand when you start dealing with load-balanced proxies, you lose the ability to validate sessions by IP address because any page request could come from any of a number of proxy server addresses19:10
nuclear_eclipseand yes, I run a squid proxy that handles Mantis perfectly well19:12
setuidThat's because they're misconfigured19:14
nuclear_eclipsenot necessarily always misconfigured; perhaps also poorly-programmed :P19:14
nuclear_eclipseit's "Enterprise"19:14
setuidYou have to patch Mantis to pass the appropriate X_FORWARDED_FOR header across, of course.19:14
nuclear_eclipsewe already did19:15
setuidI've got 2-dozen patches in the Mantis code, going back years.. when Prescience was around all the time19:15
setuidIf someone wants to run Mantis behind a proxy, they should choose a proxy that is sufficiently developed to handle it19:15
nuclear_eclipsebut apparently some proxy servers don't even handle the X_FORWARDED_FOR headers19:15
setuidi.e. not some backyard hacked-up, knackered proxy implementation19:16
nuclear_eclipseI have a feeling that it's more a situation of "IT/management uses this proxy server; we're stuck with it"19:16
Theowninghmm19:48
Theowningmantisbot, thats kinda cool19:48
mantisbotTheowning: Error: "thats" is not a valid command.19:48
Theowningany chance of that ever coming with mantis?19:48
setuidI hope ont19:49
setuider, not19:49
Theowningy?19:49
nuclear_eclipseTheowning: it's an extension to Supybot, and it's already available on GitHub19:49
Theowningorly?19:50
Theowningim gunna go hit that up19:50
* nuclear_eclipse digs for it19:50
Theowningbrb19:50
nuclear_eclipsehttps://github.com/giallu/supybot-mantis/tree19:50
Theowningawesome19:50
Theowningthnx19:50
nuclear_eclipsenp19:50
Theowningima see if i can get that up on my communities IRC server19:51
El-Matador-691hi guys -how are your19:59
El-Matador-691*you?19:59
El-Matador-691I have a quick question - anyone online? can I fire away?19:59
darynEl-Matador-691 fire. if someone knows they'll answer20:00
El-Matador-691k - thx; is it possible to create a new ticket/issue by an email?20:01
darynheh20:01
daryncommon request, but no.20:01
nuclear_eclipse:)20:01
darynthere may be an unsupported patch from the community20:01
darynhi nuclear_eclipse, do you remember where that is?20:02
El-Matador-691Ok- thx - do you have a link or something I can google for?20:02
* nuclear_eclipse has it in his monitor list...20:02
nuclear_eclipsebug 428620:02
mantisbotBug 4286 - indy - open - assigned20:03
* nuclear_eclipse pokes mantisbot20:03
mantisbotSolution for reporting via E-Mail - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=428620:03
El-Matador-691k - thx20:05
El-Matador-691I'll have a look20:05
nuclear_eclipsehi giallu20:55
gialluyo20:55
nuclear_eclipsere "The plugin system looks like the kitchen sink these days...20:55
nuclear_eclipsethat's kind of the point of plugins :)20:56
nuclear_eclipseby allowing new features to be implemented as a plugin, it prevents needing to constantly make patches against core code20:56
nuclear_eclipseit also allows features outside of the core scope of mantis, and without needing the same level of testing/maintenance from core developers, and without bogging-down/burdening users who don't need those features20:57
[KK]Kirillhi Hohn20:59
[KK]KirillJohn20:59
nuclear_eclipsehowdy20:59
[KK]Kirillnice to see you20:59
[KK]Kirillbut I don't see brother and I go to sleep21:00
[KK]Kirill:)21:00
[KK]Kirillgood dayand good night21:00
* nuclear_eclipse heads home21:04
nuclear_eclipsecheers21:04
giallunuclear_eclipse, you know all those external plugins will hurt us in the long run?21:15
gialluI fell core development is mostly stalled _today_, because we want to avoid breaking legacy stuff21:16
giallus/fell/feel21:16
gialluwith plugins, we just made a workaround for this issue21:17
gialluand new stuff started to appear again21:17
gialluso now core is even more locked down. If I want to revamp page X or subsystem Y, there are dozen of plugins that may break21:19
paul__.21:22
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: well, I would expect that you *should* be able to revamp the page, as long as a) you maintain the behavior of the event, or b) well-document how the event semantics have changed21:39
nuclear_eclipseand I think the only reason development has stalled right now is that we're trying to do two orthogonal things at the same time, eg, stabilize for release, and wanting to add some new things before that same release21:41
nuclear_eclipseall with an astute lack of developer time/attention21:41
vb123hey guys21:54
vb123I'm connecting from the bug tracker.21:54
daryncool21:54
vb123can you guys test it and see if it is working for you.21:54
vb123nuclear_eclipse: are you there?21:55
vb1234this is a connection from a popup window.21:55
daryn_mbti'm in21:56
vb1234great.21:57
vb1234it would be cool in the case of non-anonymous users to default to mantisbt user name.21:57
daryn_mbtable to configure registered nick and password21:57
vb1234The other question is whether the menu link should be called "IRC" or "Chat".  For non-technical users, Chat makes much more sense than IRC.21:58
daryn_mbti'd say chat.  i didn't really know what IRC was for awhile. even after I started programming.22:01
daryn_mbtwell, i'm out.  cheers everyone22:04
berdamolá22:53
berdam2olá22:54
berdam2algum brasileiro por aqui22:54
nuclear_eclipsevb123: /me is here now23:27
paul__lo23:27
paul__hi john23:27
nuclear_eclipsehi paul__23:27
paul__want a beer?23:27
paul__:)23:27
nuclear_eclipseyeah, email it to me :)23:28
paul__and yea, my box is back23:28

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