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| shwlove | hey guys! | 04:30 |
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| tassoman | err... I got a 500 error just after loading index.php ... i'm installing from scratch | 08:22 |
| tassoman | I've downloaded stable version by sourceforge | 08:22 |
| tassoman | ah good into /admin there is trouble shoooting | 08:23 |
| tassoman | extended DES and Blowfish crypt are mandatory? | 08:30 |
| eNTi | hi. i've somewhat ignored that file path configuration for uploaded files when i installed mantis. what do i need to change, to point it to a directory. what do i need to put into config_inc.php? | 09:02 |
| tassoman | does mantis SOAP? or XMLRPC? | 10:45 |
| tassoman | i would integrate drupal users into my mantis fresh installation | 10:45 |
| tassoman | how to remove header and footer form page layout? | 10:58 |
| tassoman | is it possible to manage users by soap? | 14:46 |
| OscarTgrouch | i am having a hard time finding this. were do is modify my available resolutions? | 16:54 |
| nuclear_eclipse | http://docs.mantisbt.org/master/en/administration_guide/x2189.html | 16:55 |
| nuclear_eclipse | that specifically covers the status settings, but it works the same way for the other enum fields, like resolutionn | 16:56 |
| OscarTgrouch | just to verify. i need to edit add it in the .php file and there is no way to add it in the user interface? | 16:56 |
| nuclear_eclipse | you can manipulate the configurations via Manage Configuration Report by inputting it manually, but it's basically the same | 16:58 |
| OscarTgrouch | ok thanks | 16:59 |
| nuclear_eclipse | you're welcome | 16:59 |
| bleftson | hi all - is anyone here a developer/contributor on mantis? | 17:02 |
| nuclear_eclipse | a few of us are, yes :) | 17:02 |
| bleftson | haha, everyone probably.. | 17:03 |
| bleftson | just a quick question | 17:03 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Bug 10280 - aniraj - open - new | 17:03 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Option to show all users in All Projects filter - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10280 | 17:03 |
| bleftson | i posted a patch to a bug - is there anything else i need to do to mark it fixed? | 17:03 |
| bleftson | i read something somewhere about asking for developer access rights? | 17:03 |
| bleftson | i'm a reporter at the moment | 17:03 |
| nuclear_eclipse | at the moment, we prefer to just accept contributions in the form of Git patches/branches, and we'll include them in the main tree if we approve/have time | 17:04 |
| nuclear_eclipse | once/if we merge it into the main tree, then we'll mark the issue as resolved | 17:05 |
| bleftson | ok, sounds good | 17:05 |
| bleftson | the best way is to attach the patch to the bug? | 17:05 |
| nuclear_eclipse | bleftson: assuming that you submit patches or branches correctly, you should receive the credit in the main repository, so it's really not much different than having direct developer access, except that of course you are reliant upon us to approve it | 17:06 |
| bleftson | yep, sounds good | 17:07 |
| bleftson | thanks | 17:07 |
| nuclear_eclipse | however, if you are consistently fixing many bugs and meeting the coding guidelines, etc, we may consider adding you to the official developer list | 17:07 |
| nuclear_eclipse | bleftson: out of curiousity, what bug did you attach a patch to? | 17:08 |
| bleftson | http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10231 | 17:10 |
| nuclear_eclipse | bleftson: that fix is "incorrect"; it removes a feature | 17:11 |
| bleftson | that's what i thought, but i went through everything i could possibly think of and i couldn't find anything that it caused to behave incorrectly | 17:12 |
| nuclear_eclipse | the point of that code is: if you report/update a bug and set a handler while the status is set to 'new', then MantisBT will automatically change the status to 'assigned' (or whatever the configured status should be) | 17:13 |
| nuclear_eclipse | however, it should probably have some sort of logic added that checks to see if the status has been modified, in which case it shoudln't make that auto-assignment | 17:14 |
| bleftson | right - i believe that still happens though when you remove that code - i think it's handled elsewhere? | 17:14 |
| nuclear_eclipse | no, it doesn't get handled anywhere else | 17:14 |
| bleftson | maybe my confusion comes from terminology | 17:14 |
| bleftson | handler = user? | 17:14 |
| nuclear_eclipse | handler = user assigned to the issue | 17:16 |
| bleftson | ah i see, i see | 17:18 |
| bleftson | you're totally right | 17:19 |
| bleftson | i'll try it again | 17:19 |
| bleftson | thanks for the feedback | 17:19 |
| nuclear_eclipse | you're welcome | 17:19 |
| nuclear_eclipse | you can also post to the mantisbt-dev mailing list if you feel your patch/issue is getting left behind without a good reason | 17:20 |
| bleftson | how much mail goes through that list per day, would you say? | 17:21 |
| bleftson | i thought about joining but i don't want to get inundated | 17:22 |
| nuclear_eclipse | it's an average of less than 1/day, maybe more during a flurry of activity, but you can see the list history at http://gmane.org/info.php?group=gmane.comp.bug-tracking.mantis.devel | 17:23 |
| bleftson | oh nice, that's not bad at all | 17:23 |
| bleftson | cool, thanks | 17:23 |
| nuclear_eclipse | you're welcome | 17:24 |
| nuclear_eclipse | this is a more up-to-date representation | 17:24 |
| nuclear_eclipse | http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=mantisbt-dev | 17:24 |
| * daryn_away is away: Gone away for now | 17:56 | |
| paul_ | . | 18:18 |
| nuclear_eclipse | hi paul_ | 18:32 |
| nuclear_eclipse | bleftson: that's the type of fix I wanted to see :) | 18:53 |
| CIA-18 | Mantisbt: brian.wrightson * r3b837f17fb92 /bug_update.php: Fix #10231: Can't change bugs from Assigned to New | 18:56 |
| CIA-18 | Mantisbt: brian.wrightson master-1.1.x * r02288569e7ea /bug_update.php: Fix #10231: Can't change bugs from Assigned to New | 18:57 |
| milliams | Evening all | 19:03 |
| nuclear_eclipse | milliams: hello | 19:10 |
| paul_ | lo john | 19:15 |
| paul_ | next week | 19:15 |
| paul_ | mantis week | 19:15 |
| paul_ | :) | 19:15 |
| * nuclear_eclipse heads to class | 19:22 | |
| mantisbot | New bug: Bug 10281 - dhx - open - new | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Empty target version field is shown in advanced bug report screen when no versions exist for a project - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10281 | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Bug 10282 - dhx - open - new | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Advanced bug report screen doesn't factor in new options $g_enable_profiles and $g_enable_build - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10282 | 20:36 |
| dhx_m | 10282 is in error, please close as alreadyfixed/invalid, thanks :) | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Bug 10283 - AntonB - open - new | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: The url link containing national chars is wrong parsed - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10283 | 20:36 |
| milliams | afternoon all | 20:36 |
| dhx_m | hi | 20:36 |
| dhx_m | I noticed that you've started work on templating with smarty :) | 20:36 |
| milliams_ | I'm thinking I'll do it with plugin functions (which in turn access a mini-template file) | 20:36 |
| milliams_ | (grr, stupid IRC connection) | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | milliams: what do you mean by that? | 20:36 |
| dhx_m | well yeah, templates should be 'shared' as much as possible | 20:36 |
| dhx_m | that is one of the main reasons anyone would want to use templates | 20:36 |
| dhx_m | ... if that is what is meant by 'mini-template' | 20:36 |
| dhx_m | I'm not entirely convinced of the benefit of moving all the HTML out of the current .php files | 20:36 |
| dhx_m | just to stick it in templates | 20:36 |
| dhx_m | that isn't really adding any new benefit, except it is possibly easier to edit the templates/HTML | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | hi all | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | anybody around who knows things about the wiki integration code ?? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | Simpson_2: me | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | but I'll be gone shortly; either stay on for a while, or send your questions/inquiries to the developer list, and I'll help when I get back | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | nuclear_eclipse, stil here ?? | 20:36 |
| Heady | Hi Anyone know if it is possible to remove the right from the manager to add new users with the manager role? | 20:36 |
| daryn | Heady: look at $g_manage_user_threshold in config_defaults_inc.php I believe it defaults to Administrator though. | 20:36 |
| Heady | I dont mean the creation of an account but the possibility to add an existing user to a project with manager role | 20:36 |
| Heady | so i have setup a manager for project xyz and dont want that this manager can add other managers to that software | 20:36 |
| Heady | didnt find any config option so far | 20:36 |
| daryn | i believe that is $g_project_user_threshold | 20:36 |
| daryn | well...that would prevent them from adding ANY users to any project | 20:36 |
| Heady | jep thats right but manager should still be able toa dd viewer to developer | 20:36 |
| Heady | ;) | 20:36 |
| Heady | i guess its not possible out of the box | 20:36 |
| daryn | so, if they need to be able to add users to a project but not other managers, then no that doesn't exist | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | Simpson_2: back now | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | Heady: it sounds to me that if you can't trust your project managers to not create other managers, you have a trust problem rather than a software problem ;) | 20:36 |
| Heady | its not about trust;) | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | well, if you trust your managers, then just tell them not to make new users with manager permissions... :P | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | you could always submit a feature request to our tracker | 20:36 |
| * daryn_away is away: Gone away for now | 20:36 | |
| Simpson_2 | nuclear_eclipse, I have a minimal remark on the media wiki plugin | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | nuclear_eclipse, I would replace the spaces in project names with underscores | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | nuclear_eclipse, that would make it look a whole lot better in the wiki | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | agreed, but at this point, it's a matter of maintaining legacy compatibility | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | you could always create your own integration plugin that handled things exactly how you want to | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | are there options to do backlinking as well ?? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | what do you mean? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | you mean links from Mediawiki back to MantisBT? | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | yup | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | not currently | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | okay, and I remember seeing automatic wiki linking in bugnotes somewhere | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | do you know about that ?? ( I can't find it anymore ) | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I had originally made plans to release a full integratino "suite" for mediawiki, including customizable MantisBT plugin, template for MediaWiki to embed in MantisBT, and a MedaiWiki extension for linking back to MantisBT, but I never had the time | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | interesting :) | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | you have nothing at all ? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I might have a bit of it remaining somewhere on my server, but time is a very limiting factor when I'm both working 20 hours a week and in my last quarter of classes before I graduate university | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | :) | 20:36 |
| Simpson_2 | ah like that :) | 20:36 |
| Heady | do you guys run beta releases or how you use the plugins? I am still waiting for a stable release supporting plugins | 20:36 |
| * daryn is back. | 20:36 | |
| paul___ | moo | 20:36 |
| daryn | hi paul__ | 20:36 |
| paul___ | lo daryn | 20:36 |
| paul___ | you busy next week? | 20:36 |
| daryn | i'm always busy these days. but what do you have in mind? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | Heady: we run the development versions on our official tracker | 20:36 |
| OscarTgrouch | is there a way to stop a virtual machine from the comand line | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | what VM system are you using? | 20:36 |
| OscarTgrouch | VWware server 2.0 on ubuntu | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | likely not then | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I know you can with VirtualBox though | 20:36 |
| OscarTgrouch | ha ha nice. i wish i could move to that | 20:36 |
| OscarTgrouch | personally | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Bug 10284 - cincinatofurtado - open - new | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Language auto-detection error - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10284 | 20:36 |
| hoatm | hi | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Bug 10285 - sivasankari - open - new | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Allow Only Reporters to change the issue status to CLOSED - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10285 | 20:36 |
| skil | Hi all! I have a quiestion about mantis bt. I have several projects in mantis. How can I set one user to view only one defined project? The other users should remain the same. | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Bug 10286 - BAMaustin - open - assigned | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Broken link to 'Note' graphic in several wiki pages - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10286 | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | skil: change projects to private. and add users to needed project | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | John, you here? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | yep | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | hi. | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | howdy | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | Did git support filename in national character? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | it should | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I would assume that if the filesystem supports it, Git will too | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | I try create local rep for check all version files. I have folder Обработки мои | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | In msysgit I cann't git add "Обработки мои" | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | then maybe it doesn't support them - I don't know for sure | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | I want know, this only mistake msysgit or git | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | ok. I ask msysgit developers | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | one more question | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | it could be a result of running Git on Windows, or just a design decision in Git itself to not handle UTF-8 | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | can you open page git.mantisforge.org? | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | what last change after mantisbt.git MantisBT paul@mantisforge.org ? | 20:36 |
| [KK]Kirill | I see 99 min ago more than 1 day | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | ah, that page is cached, and apparently paulr hasn't reset it | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | paul___: poke | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Bug 10287 - BAMaustin - open - new | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Admin Guide sections that are incomplete (even missing TODO annotations) - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10287 | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Bug 10288 - BAMaustin - open - new | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: TODO placeholders left in Administrators Guide - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10288 | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Bug 10289 - BAMaustin - open - new | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Admin Guide "Page Descriptions" pages have CR/LF problems - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10289 | 20:36 |
| slestak | hi guys. i am looking at mantis for our issue tracking. Is it possible to remove or hide fields from the ui? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | certain ones can be disabled, yes | 20:36 |
| slestak | we do not have releases or versioning. We are just maintianing our ERP and tracking enhancemenents | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | slestak: look in config_defaults_inc for various options; copy ones you want to change into your config_inc and set them there | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Bug 10290 - BAMaustin - open - new | 20:36 |
| mantisbot | New bug: Marketing description, documentation link for User Change log - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=10290 | 20:36 |
| slestak | nuclear_eclipse: thx. good comments in teh config_defaults_inc | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | Hello all. Thought I'd eavesdrop for a while | 20:36 |
| daryn | BAMaustin pretty quiet lately. not much to eavesdrop on | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | Sorta figured it would be. Since Mantis development has SO many lines of communication, it just makes sense to check 'em all out | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | I should have logged in before I posted issues to the tracker earlier... just to see how that works with the bot | 20:36 |
| daryn | this and the dev list are the best places for official activity | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | Hi, I have a question on the Roadmap feature (using 1.1.6), does a project or issue have to be public for the roadmap to publish? I met the documented default requiments with an issue for it to appear in roadmap, but nothing shows. | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | BAMaustin: if you're curious, IRC logs are stored at http://www.mantisforge.org/irclogs/ | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | sleighboy: the user needs access to the roadmap for it to show, and you need to either have that project, or All Projects selected | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | Thx . | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | <sleighboy> Just retested to be sure with a Private project. It showed the Private too for Admin viewing the Roadmap | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | I have a test project, added two versions 0.0.1 (Released) and 0.1 (not Released), added a issue reported it in the only option (naturally) 0.0.1 .. then resolved it and marke dit was resolved in 0.1. I am an admin, and I assigned it to myself. Should it not show in the roadmap? | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | Shows in Changelog, BTW | 20:36 |
| daryn | sleighboy: ah, roadmap is for issues that have not been resolved. once it's in a resolved state it will show up in the changelog instead of the roadmap | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | daryn: it should show up in the roadmap as well because the version it was resolved in was still marked an unreleased | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | s/an/as/ | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | Yes, that is what I thought. I had not seen where it can be assigned to a non-released version and not be marked resolved | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | sleighboy: what status do you have set for the version 0.1? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | eg, "development" is the only version status that will show up in the roadmap; released and stable will only show in the changelog, and obsolete will not show anywhere | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | also make sure the version's view status is set to public | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | and that it is enabled | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | For versions the only option is Released | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | Name, Daet Order, Desc., Released | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | Date | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | I tried with the Project being Dev/Released/Stable/Obsol | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | This is upgraded from a previous version of Mantis, and I did not do the upgrade myself, if that helps any. Not sure if there were any data or scheme changes that needed to be made on an upgrade that were not done. | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | sleighboy: what version? | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | Running 1.1.6 now, are you asking what I upgraded from? I will have too see if I can get that, I installed it about 2 years ago :) | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | no, shouldn't need to worry about the old version | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | has your installation been modified in any manner? | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | Was 1.0.7 | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | No | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | I had added a custom helper function for the roadmap which returned true, and stll no-go. | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | sleighboy: at this point, the only thing I can suggest is to try creating a fresh installation elsewhere, and see if you can get it work straight out of the box | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | and on the fresh install, try doing it without any customizations to configurations | 20:36 |
| sleighboy | Okay, I'll give it go, thanks | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | eg, if you can't get it working with a pristine install, then perhaps there's a bug somewhere; otherwise it would point to some sort of trouble with either your configuration or something else, and if you can narrow down the problem, you can either find and report a bug, or fix an "incorrect" configuration - I don't know which it might be | 20:36 |
| paul___ | lo | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | hi paul___ | 20:36 |
| daryn | hello | 20:36 |
| paul___ | you poked? | 20:36 |
| paul___ | 2 weeks | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | http://git.mantisforge.org is not refreshing it's cached front page | 20:36 |
| paul___ | oh ffs | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | :) | 20:36 |
| paul___ | there | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | yay! | 20:36 |
| paul___ | i rm'd the cache | 20:36 |
| paul___ | it's obviously timing thing | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | btw, what is with the 'right now' timestamps? | 20:36 |
| paul___ | -rw------- 1 www-data www-data 5439 Apr 1 21:36 gitweb.index.cache | 20:36 |
| paul___ | root@www:/tmp/gitweb# rm gitweb.index.cache | 20:36 |
| paul___ | doesn't normally do that | 20:36 |
| paul___ | i'm going to kill my friend | 20:36 |
| paul___ | excuse me | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | Interesting. I noticed some of my Projects & Subprojects weren't showing the the RoadMap either. So I just ran thru a Subproject that wasn't showing. | 20:36 |
| paul___ | ntp 9199 0.0 0.1 23364 1404 ? Ss Mar28 0:15 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -u 109:112 -g | 20:36 |
| paul___ | root@www:/tmp/gitweb# date | 20:36 |
| paul___ | Wed Apr 1 21:36:40 BST 2009 | 20:36 |
| * paul___ ponders | 20:36 | |
| paul___ | nuclear_eclipse: we found that | 20:36 |
| paul___ | xen was generating bad time stuff | 20:36 |
| paul___ | so switch to using clock within domain I think | 20:36 |
| paul___ | and install ntpd | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | does that mean your server's time will finally match real time, rather than being ahead by five minutes? | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | I didn't have versions set for that Subproject so set that up, set a Target & Product version. Didn't realize that the Target version had to be Unreleased to showed in Roadmap | 20:36 |
| paul___ | nuclear_eclipse: heh | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | Had made a bad assumption that I had to have versions set to 'released' to be in the Version pop-up lists | 20:36 |
| paul___ | anyway, nuclear_eclipse 2 weeks!!!!!!!!!!! | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | So I'd been setting my future versions to released too | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | paul___: what about 2 weeks? | 20:36 |
| paul___ | well I work in a school | 20:36 |
| paul___ | school has no kids for easter hols | 20:36 |
| paul___ | until 2 weeks time | 20:36 |
| paul___ | ;) | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | wow, that's quite a break... | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | we only ever got a week off in school, if even that much... | 20:36 |
| paul___ | so like | 20:36 |
| paul___ | 1.2a4? | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | This a private/religious school or something? | 20:36 |
| paul___ | no | 20:36 |
| paul___ | UK | 20:36 |
| paul___ | uk schools | 20:36 |
| paul___ | have | 20:36 |
| paul___ | 6 week summer hols | 20:36 |
| paul___ | basically | 20:36 |
| paul___ | erm | 20:36 |
| paul___ | 38 weeks students are in | 20:36 |
| paul___ | a year | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | paul___: if you can get pluggable authentication implemented, I'll make a 1.2.0a4 release | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | Ah. that 'splains it. | 20:36 |
| paul___ | nuclear_eclipse: I saw you posted about manual | 20:36 |
| * paul___ thinks we should move to .xml for manual | 20:36 | |
| * paul___ can't find a editor for docbook that suppots .sgml | 20:36 | |
| nuclear_eclipse | paul___: vim, emacs, and notepad support .sgml, it's just raw text..... | 20:36 |
| paul___ | yea, but that's no good :) | 20:36 |
| * paul___ wants something more useful ;p | 20:36 | |
| nuclear_eclipse | it's no harder to write SGML tags than it is to write HTML tags.... | 20:36 |
| paul___ | out of interest | 20:36 |
| paul___ | do you know flash ? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I try not to | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | dunno about XML its sorta a non-standard standard since ANYONE can add a tag type. Then you have to handle all the special types | 20:36 |
| paul___ | what are we doing with 9856? | 20:36 |
| paul___ | you want me to look at it ?:) | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | BAMaustin: with DocBook, there's a standardized DTD, meaning that's not true | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | paul___: if you wouldn't mind, yes, I'd like you to look at it | 20:36 |
| paul___ | BAMaustin: the docbook 'editors' i've found, only support xml dtd's | 20:36 |
| paul___ | (yes, I know it's plain text) | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | XML is just a subset of SGML anyways... | 20:36 |
| paul___ | surely it's other way around? | 20:36 |
| BAMaustin | Interesting. Last 'chunky' file format I worked in extensively was IFF back in the '80s | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | paul___: nope, SGML is a very old and loose standard for markup languages, and both HTML and XML are subsets of the SGML language; both simply standardize a lot of inner details, but both are basically SGML with a bunch of special rules | 20:36 |
| paul___ | ok | 20:36 |
| paul___ | nuclear_eclipse: what git version are you on? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | jreese@iowa[/space/workspace/mantisbt] git version < 9:09 | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | git version 1.6.1.2 | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | that's just the last version that I took the time to compile | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | on every other machine I use, I just have the standard package from the distro, but it's generally at least 1.5.x or never | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | newer* | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | paul___: still there? | 20:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | it seems that your git-daemon has been taken down? | 20:36 |
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