Wednesday, 2009-04-15

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paulr_lo glenn00:19
CIA-11Mantisbt: paul * rf7183a27016b /core/columns_api.php: Fix: 0009422: Custom field ids (or info) should be cached00:19
CIA-11Mantisbt: paul * r75f8df7daef1 /core/string_api.php: fix: #0009827: Note link exposes other users, authors of private notes00:19
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10329 - durk - open - new04:45
mantisbotNew bug: Receive duplicate key on upgrade from 1.1.6 to 1.2.0a3 if existing categories exist with a leading or tailing space - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1032904:45
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10330 - dhx - open - new05:00
mantisbotNew bug: Don't use hardcoded default enum levels when reporting a new bug - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1033005:00
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10331 - stevenchew - open - new05:50
mantisbotNew bug: Project_id  vs project name : customized fields using $g_view_issues_page_columns - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1033105:50
CIA-11Mantisbt: s.mazeland * r085f672d06d7 /lang/ (14 files): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net (2009-04-15 07:04 UTC)07:39
giallusiebrand, ping08:45
siebrandgiallu: pong!08:46
gialluI assume translatewiki supports gettext based translations as well?08:46
gialluyou know, .pot files and friends08:46
siebrandgiallu: yes08:46
gialluok great08:46
siebrandgiallu: are you considering to use gettext for MantisBT?08:48
gialluI am fiddling with the idea, yeah08:50
siebrandhmm08:51
siebrandnot too enthousiastic about that..08:51
siebrandit is less flexible, and slow for web apps.08:51
giallusiebrand, do you have direct experience on this or just hearsay?08:52
siebrandhearsay.08:52
gialluok08:52
siebranda lot of experience with non-gettext in MediaWiki08:53
gialluI'd just love to have some real numbers here, but I'm not sure my limited time will allow it :(08:53
siebrandanother issue I have with gettext is that the concept makes it hard to properly do i18n with it.08:54
siebrandthis is because the framework will always reuse the same source string08:55
siebrandin English a verb and a noun can be written the same, where they are different in other languages.08:55
siebrandThis makes the fomat less specific, and it makes it less clear to developers that they have to pay attention to incorrect message re-use.08:56
siebrandin translatewiki we use gettext as a universal export format, to allow all translators to work in it, and submit the result back to us for further processing.08:56
siebrandwe allow duplicate messages using the msgctxt tag08:57
siebrand(in which we store the message key)08:57
siebrandan advantage for Mantis when using gettext would be instant plural support.08:59
siebrandAlthough the plural support in gettext is limited.08:59
scoufildhello all09:11
scoufildi have problem withe matis09:11
scoufild can you help me please09:13
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10332 - ncmichiel - open - new09:22
mantisbotNew bug: Unable to create mantis_bug_table / ERROR: column "sticky" is of type boolean but default expression is of type integer - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1033209:22
scoufildhello09:34
paul_siebrand: lo?09:41
siebrandpaul_: yes?09:42
paul_got a few secs?09:42
siebrandyes09:42
paul_bug 748409:43
mantisbotBug 7484 - ez - open - assigned09:43
mantisbot[he] Language file for Hebrew UTF-8 - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=748409:43
paul_whats the statusof that ?09:43
siebrandpaul_: all translations processed. The css stuff is not done.09:44
* paul_ wonders why we can't view css inline09:45
paul_:(09:45
siebrandpaul_: he translated everything in translatewiki. Updated git a few hours ago.09:45
paul_the .css09:45
paul_is the only change RTl in .html tag?09:45
siebrandI think that's the one thing Right to Left starts with.09:46
siebrandAfter that, some collateral damage may appear, but this is indeed the first requirement.09:46
siebrandpaul_: haven't looked at it in detail yet.09:47
siebrandpaul_: would probably be best to have an 'rtl.css' that is loaded additionally whenever an RTL language has been selected as  UI language, that only contains the exceptions for RTL.09:48
siebrandif there are floats and hard aligns in css, those should probably also be reversed09:48
siebrandsee for example http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/skins/monobook/rtl.css?revision=49502&view=markup09:49
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10333 - scoufild - no change required - closed09:52
mantisbotNew bug: 1 - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1033309:52
paul_loaded additionally?09:59
paul_can you 'overwrite' css settings then ?09:59
giallupaul_, ehm09:59
gialluthat's the C in Css10:00
paul_;/10:00
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10334 - ncmichiel - open - new10:12
mantisbotNew bug: Unable to create user on postgres - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1033410:12
siebrandpaul_: yeah, the guy that added cascading to style sheets should get a medal :)10:16
paul_I have too much time10:32
paul_bug 926910:36
mantisbotBug 9269 - 0xHH - open - acknowledged10:36
mantisbotOn installation mantis create database with default collation settings. - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=926910:36
giallupaul_, that would be important to fix imho10:39
paul_didy ou look at my branches btw?10:40
giallupaul_, there isn't much to see, is it?10:43
paul_fairly large changesets10:51
nuclear_eclipsemorning all12:29
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10335 - kec161 - open - new13:13
mantisbotNew bug: Modified so that the status and resolution can have multiple choices seperated by | in the My View queries - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1033513:13
paul_nuclear_eclipse: lo john13:15
paul_lodaryn13:25
nuclear_eclipsehi paul_13:25
paul_i'm breaking more stuff ;/13:27
dhx_mhi13:43
gialluhey dhx_m13:57
dhx_mhey13:58
* giallu loves Australia13:59
gialluthough I never been there...14:00
dhx_myou're missing out :)14:00
dhx_munless... you live somewhere much nicer :)14:00
dhx_mmaybe you own your own Island? :p14:00
gialluI'm in Italy, not sure how this is better...14:01
dhx_mif you live in one of those nice seaside villages... :)14:02
giallunope...14:03
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10336 - kec161 - open - new14:03
mantisbotNew bug: Added ability to view other users My View page - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1033614:03
giallunuclear_eclipse, are you going to http://barcamprochester.org/ ?14:11
nuclear_eclipseyep14:18
* nuclear_eclipse is signed up as attendee #99 :P14:19
gialluah14:19
giallunice, I hope someday I can attend something like that in my area14:19
* nuclear_eclipse got the silly idea to talk about Mantis at it :P14:20
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: how'd you here about it?14:20
nuclear_eclipseI didn't realize it was that well advertised...14:21
gialluehehe14:21
giallujust read about it in Fedora weekly news14:21
nuclear_eclipseah, fancy14:21
lmanuelhi14:22
nuclear_eclipsehello14:23
nuclear_eclipsegiallu: it's actually being held at my university, which is probably the biggest reason I'm attending14:24
gialluI see...14:25
nuclear_eclipseif I had to travel anywhere further than 10-15 minutes, I'd probably be too lozy =\14:25
nuclear_eclipselazy eeven14:25
lmanuelHow can I Modify the report types that Mantis has?14:28
nuclear_eclipseis there a way to disable config variable expansion for specific values?15:42
nuclear_eclipseeg, I want to have a configurable string that can be used by sprintf() with multiple '%s' placeholders, but config var expansion breaks that ability....15:43
aptituzescape it?15:50
aptituz(not a php crack, though, but usually this should be possible, unless I understand your question fundamentally wrong)15:50
paul_nuclear_eclipse: what do you mean?15:51
nuclear_eclipsewell, the problem is a Mantis issue: config_get() by default does "expansion"/evaluation by replacing '%x%' in the string with the value of $g_x15:51
paul_right, and what are you trying to do this for? something in core?15:51
nuclear_eclipsenevermind though, I just went a different route of replacing '$x' in the string with '%x$s' after the string is pulled from the configuration....15:52
nuclear_eclipseand no, it's for the source integration plugin15:52
paul_ahh, you are trying to do the numbered $ stuff15:53
nuclear_eclipsewell, my point is that if you store a configuration string of '%s, %s', config_get() will try to expand '%s, %' into "$, s"15:53
nuclear_eclipseoops, "$s, "15:54
paul_looked at my branches yet?15:54
* paul_ thinks he's gonna merge them together soon to test performance 15:54
nuclear_eclipseno, not yet15:54
paul_(which is one of reasons I started both in the first place!15:54
nuclear_eclipseI'll try to get to it tonight15:55
paul_cool15:55
paul_2345 open issues in mantisbt project ;/15:55
paul_we need sub-projects and stuff setu p15:55
nuclear_eclipsepaul_: you need to set up configurable post-receive hooks for mantisforge repos :P15:57
paul_oh?15:58
nuclear_eclipsethen I could stop polling your server every ten minutes to update my tracker at leetcode.net :P15:58
paul_heh15:58
paul_part of me would like to set up a bugtracker by default for each repo15:58
paul_part of me has held off doing that for obvious reasons15:59
paul_bug 1008715:59
mantisbotBug 10087 - azatoth - open - new15:59
mantisbotFlyspray conversion script - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1008715:59
paul_I want somewhere to put those sort of things15:59
paul_i.e. stuff we'll never include in git but might be useful in an unsupported manner for someone16:00
nuclear_eclipselunchtime16:01
nuclear_eclipsecheers16:01
* paul_ is gonna have a bliz16:01
paul_daryn: hi?16:13
paul_bug 1008116:14
mantisbotBug 10081 - rombert - open - new16:14
mantisbotRenaming versions leaves old target_version in filters - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1008116:14
darynhi paul_16:16
paul_what javascript libraries did we want to use?17:00
paul_http://mootools.net/ ?17:00
paul_jquery?17:00
paul_update projax17:00
paul_?17:00
darynjquery was preferred by myself, giallu, and maybe nuclear_eclipse?17:00
paul_I asked a friend who does some jscript stuff or well17:01
daryni'm out for awhile...17:01
paul_a friend that's coded an ajax irc client17:01
paul_who said he tends to use mootools17:01
darynzend is using a different one...don't recall the name atm17:02
darynbut it's supposed to be fast i think17:02
* daryn_away is away: Gone away for now17:02
paul_dojo17:04
nuclear_eclipsedhx_m: in case you didn't see the notification, I implemented association of an explicit VCS username on the account prefs page, and that's consulted first when mapping commits to user ids18:18
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10337 - kec161 - open - new18:59
mantisbotNew bug: Added ability to remove user from all projects at once - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1033718:59
* paul_ slaps nuclear_eclipse around a bit for relaxation19:15
* nuclear_eclipse breaks paul_'s knees, and then leaves for class19:16
* daryn_away is away: Gone away for now20:57
* daryn is back.21:07
paul_wb21:23
* paul_ needs to update his stuff to run victor's soap tests21:33
* paul_ tries21:33
* daryn_away is away: Gone away for now21:44

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