Friday, 2009-05-01

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mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10438 - sdurkin - open - new01:12
mantisbotNew bug: Incorrect display and calculation of File Size Limits - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1043801:12
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10439 - sdurkin - open - new01:17
mantisbotNew bug: Core.php missing php terminator - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1043901:17
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10440 - sdurkin - open - new02:33
mantisbotNew bug: "Wrong type" errors displayed on View Issue page - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1044002:33
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10441 - sdurkin - open - new04:44
mantisbotNew bug: SYSTEM WARNING: in_array(): Wrong datatype for second argument - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1044104:44
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10442 - sdurkin - open - new04:44
mantisbotNew bug: Mantis 1.2.0a3 not compatible with ZendOptimizer - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1044204:44
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10443 - sdurkin - open - new04:49
mantisbotNew bug: Embedded videos - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1044304:49
kinabaluhey guys are there any demo sites using the new 1.2 branch?05:06
dhx_mthe main Mantis tracker uses 1.205:12
dhx_mbut it isn't a demo as such05:12
kinabalutrying to gauge what the new version has in store by a little perusing05:17
dhx_mplugins! :)05:17
kinabaluoh?  there weren't plugins before eh?05:18
kinabaluanything fun and interesting in there yet?05:18
dhx_msourceintegration is nice05:18
kinabaluoooh05:18
kinabaluis it somewhat stable?05:18
dhx_mI'm using it on a small project with no problems05:19
dhx_mas with everything, you should always do thorough testing before updating software on a live server05:19
kinabaluis there any way to pull in a common header, so I can make the wiki and the bugtracker seem like they're just 2 parts of the same web?05:19
kinabaluyeah, of course05:19
dhx_mnot so sure about that05:19
dhx_mI'm sure you could devise some method of doing that by changing a little bit of code05:19
kinabaluso, no theming support out of the box05:20
dhx_mnope05:21
kinabaludhx_m: sourceintegration is where?  i don't see it in the pluginlist05:58
dhx_mmantisforge.org :)05:59
dhx_mgit.mantisforge.org05:59
kinabaluahh06:00
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10444 - sdurkin - open - new07:10
mantisbotNew bug: Integration of the Debout plugin framework into the Mantis main-line code-base. - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1044407:10
TomTomhi there11:00
TomTomis paulr available?11:00
TomTomi got the last nightly and i still have the problem the the database schema could not be created for postgresql11:01
TomTomits still the same error as two months ago11:01
siebrandTomTom: are you able to provide a patch I can apply?11:09
TomTomno, i can only complain and be destructive ;)=11:10
siebrandTomTom: have you created an issue in the bugtracker detailing the failure?11:11
siebrandif so, where is it?11:11
TomTomi posted it three times here. i taked to gaillu and paulr about these issues here in the channel. i am tired of creating accounts... i will try it again in the next month...  there are still so many open bugs regarding the schema/postgresql issues11:14
siebrandTomTom: well, we believe strongly in being able to track issues and having the possibility to look something up and ask for feedback in the issues.11:17
siebrandTomTom: if you have a need to get it resolevd, I strongly advise you to create an issue in the tracker.11:17
siebrandTomTom: regardless of your adversity to creating accounts...11:17
TomTomhehe i found the irc logs in the web of my last "report"...11:18
TomTomanonymous issue posting should be possible ;) hmm i could use the wiki to post my issue11:19
TomTom;)11:19
TomTomwhere is the schema definition stored?11:27
TomTomthe column is being created as boolean and it tried to alter it to integer, which fails.11:27
TomTomsiebrand: any idea where the "first" clean schema comes from? some xml definition which is consumed by this adodb and converted? where is it?11:40
TomTomah schema.php11:42
gialluTomTom, yeas, admin/schema.php11:53
* giallu needs to sit and learn how to use pgsql...11:53
gialluTomTom, which version are you on?11:53
TomTomi am not sure whats exactly the cause... i can execute the "wrong" alter statements directly in the database, where it works (no, not a permission issue)11:55
gialluTomTom, which pgsql version? I would probably be able to test on 8.3.711:57
TomTomfirst bug i avoided was to change the type of the basic schema: line 264 -> redirect_delay I UNSIGNED NOTNULL DEFAULT '0'   and COMMENT OUT the update part in line 36411:57
TomTomi have 8.3.711:57
TomTomclean fresh created db, installation without admin (because database exists and owner is mantis user)11:58
TomTomnow the next alter/update part fails: line 408 the "due_date" column cant be added via the script, but its possible directly in pgsql with the same syntax12:00
TomTomnow i am trought... that are two only bugs12:17
TomTomthe second updatestatement (due_date) seems to have a ' to few12:17
TomTom#9379 is definitly a must... now i am searching B)12:19
TomTomok, its part of the bug entry12:20
TomTompgsql bug parade... select count(*) from mantis_tag_table where 1.... wrong type12:22
sdjfklTomTom: do you use the bundled adodb?13:03
TomTomso back from lunch...13:04
TomTompaulr: hmm i got the latest nightly but there is also an adodb 5.05 installed on my system13:05
paulr_TomTom: if you are using the bundled adodb it should be fine13:07
paulr_adodb itself doesn't like converting from some things to others13:07
paulr_I tend to end up having to 'fix' stuff ;/13:07
TomTomhow to override the system-adodb with the provided adodb?13:07
paulr_for example, in the last adodb 5.08 release13:08
paulr_they left + at the start of a line from merging in some patch13:08
* paulr_ posted http://phplens.com/lens/lensforum/msgs.php?id=17946&PHPSESSID=437ddbf177061b2f96b811e497d2883d day after release on 18/4 but no response yet13:08
paulr_your using trunk right?13:08
TomTomyes13:08
paulr_if you go to /admin/check.php, do you get 5.06 returned?13:08
TomTomdownloaded a master archive from 1.5.13:08
paulr_(yes, 5.08 returns 'V5.06 16 Oct 2008 (c) 2000-2009'  as version string)13:09
TomTom5.0513:09
paulr_  39 # Do not explicitly include $t_core_dir to allow using system ADODB by including  40 # it in include path and removing the one distributed with MantisBT (see #7907).  41 require_once( 'adodb/adodb.inc.php' );13:10
paulr_i'd be inclined to edit those lines of database_api.php to include $t_core_dir13:10
nuclear_eclipseTomTom: I'm fixing the issue on manage_tags_page13:11
paulr_whats that?13:11
TomTomnuclear_eclipse: wait, it might be also an adodb problem13:11
nuclear_eclipsewell, I don't like 'WHERE 1' on any query13:12
nuclear_eclipseit's pointless, and in htis case is only causing problems13:12
paulr_yes that needs to go13:12
paulr_and is trivial to fix13:13
nuclear_eclipseyep13:13
TomTompaulr: so removing line 40 will use the system-adodb? but i want it other way round. use the provided adodb13:13
paulr_add $t_core_dir to line 41 I think13:14
paulr_nuclear_eclipse: why dont we use bundled adodb by default?13:14
paulr_we test bundled adodb13:14
nuclear_eclipsedon't ask me13:14
paulr_and fix bugs in13:14
paulr_and patch to fix datadict breakages13:14
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10445 - Kyle_Katarn - open - new13:16
mantisbotNew bug: Wrong copyright - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1044513:16
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10446 - jreese - open - assigned13:16
mantisbotNew bug: PgSQL error on "WHERE 1" in manage_tags_page.php - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1044613:16
paulr_wow @ 1045513:17
CIA-11Mantisbt: jreese * ra4eec2ffc34e /manage_tags_page.php: Fix #10446: PgSQL errors with manage_tags_page use of 'WHERE 1'.13:18
paulr_didn't you just do that wrong john13:19
paulr_what adds WHERE13:19
nuclear_eclipseyeah, I'm committing another right now; I somehow hit 'undo' on the other part of the change without catching it13:21
CIA-11Mantisbt: jreese * r02353e8e3252 /manage_tags_page.php: Follow-up to commit a4eec2: missed adding the 'WHERE' clause appropriately.13:22
TomTomnow i will do a roundtrip with the bundled adodb and the last nightly13:22
nuclear_eclipsepaulr_: would you mind looking at http://leetcode.net/mantis/view.php?id=32 -- I can't replicate the problem the reporter is having, and I've never seen that be a problem in the past either...13:26
TomTompaulr: now the roundtrip worked. i think you shoud definitly change it by default to use the bundled adodb13:27
TomTomso all the wrong DDL syntax stuff with postgresql i wrote before is an issue with the system-provided adodb vs the bundled13:27
TomTomwhy you guys dont create a selenium (recorded) testcase which clicks all possible links in the base installation? this tags bug would have been found13:29
nuclear_eclipseTomTom: still would have required testing on Postgres as opposed to MySQL....13:30
TomTomwho is using mysql? ;-)13:31
TomTomit takes ages to correct such mistakes13:31
nuclear_eclipseI've tried running and testing on PgSQL, but I always seem to have troubles with it on my machine, and MySQL is just much simpler to manage13:32
TomTomhehe its a matter of habits i think.. getting mysql to run is always a pain... lots of stupid files to modify13:33
paulr_nuclear_eclipse: it would make sense13:33
paulr_see what we do for XL columns in core13:33
paulr_setting default "" is a bit silly imo13:33
nuclear_eclipsereally?  I've never had to modify any files to ever get mysql running?13:33
paulr_as null ~ ""13:33
TomTomnuclear_eclipse: oh yes, its because of the connection auth/access...13:34
TomTombut all is easy compared to oracle ;)13:34
nuclear_eclipseyou still shouldn't need to modify files to add access permissions...13:34
TomTomi hope the mysql guys made innodb standard... this is also a real pain not to have a standard ACID dbengine as a standard engine13:36
nuclear_eclipseTomTom: well, it's not like InnoDB is all that great either...13:37
TomTombut no one uses a non ACID database... isam is dead since dbase ;)13:38
nuclear_eclipsepaulr_: why would he get DB errors for default values on text columns, and I don't, when we both run MySQL 5.0x?13:38
nuclear_eclipseTomTom: well, apparently Mantis schema still prefers ISAM, even if the DBA has set InnoDB as the default type....13:39
TomTom:-( ive seen this in the schema.php file...13:39
nuclear_eclipseI'm not sure I agree; I'd rather see InnoDB as the preferred DB type....13:39
TomTombut i dont care, all my databases are transaction aware by default...13:40
nuclear_eclipsenow if only Mantis knew wtf a transaction was....13:40
TomTomthis would be not the part of mantis but the part of the outer framework in which mantis runs13:41
TomTomif there is such...13:41
nuclear_eclipseMantis is its own framework :P13:41
nuclear_eclipseMantis was created before the whole notion of "web framework" was ever really created... =\13:42
TomTomgrown software13:42
TomTomhehe i am using still mantis 1.0.8 in production13:44
TomTomits a too big issue right now to update the server to new php and mysql13:44
TomTomany idea (other than "when its done") when 1.2 will be released?13:46
nuclear_eclipsesorry, no13:47
paulr_nuclear_eclipse: ask him if he's changed backend engine from myisam maybe?13:53
paulr_TomTom: we dont like doing releases :)13:53
paulr_if we do a release, it implies we need to support it13:54
paulr_by making everything beta's... )13:54
paulr_google have made millions out of beta's13:54
TomTomhehe but i never found a bug when using these google betas :)14:05
paulr_bit like our beta's!14:05
TomTommy major interest in the 1.2 tree is the planning plugin and the connectivity to eclipse mylyn14:06
nuclear_eclipsedhx_m: around?14:21
dhx_mhi, just got a nice email :)14:22
dhx_mI shall try it out a bit later when I have a bit more time14:23
nuclear_eclipsemind testing the fixen for #30?14:23
nuclear_eclipseok, thanks14:23
dhx_myep14:23
[KK]Kirillhi all.14:23
[KK]Kirillhappy holiday14:23
nuclear_eclipsehello14:23
nuclear_eclipsewhat holiday?14:23
dhx_mthanks for the fix nuclear_eclipse :)14:24
[KK]KirillFirst May14:24
nuclear_eclipseyou're welcome; thanks for pointg out my mistakes ;)14:24
nuclear_eclipse[KK]Kirill: I hadn't even noticed :P14:24
[KK]Kirillhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day14:26
[KK]KirillIn Russia today holiday14:26
[KK]KirillIn Ukrain 2 days14:27
[KK]Kirill1 and 2nd of May14:27
nuclear_eclipsemm, we still go to work as if it was nothing =\14:27
[KK]KirillI regret you :(14:28
[KK]Kirillnuclear_eclipse: You Victory day celebrate 8 or 9 of May?14:28
nuclear_eclipsenope, I'm in the US; we don't have a Victory Day14:29
[KK]KirillWhy?14:30
[KK]KirillYou don't victory fashism?14:30
TomTomhaha14:31
[KK]Kirillhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Day_(Eastern_Europe)14:32
nuclear_eclipsewell, since we were in the war for long after the victory in Europe, it doesn't quite apply to us :P14:32
[KK]KirillYou first american who talk this :)14:32
TomTom"US world domination tour, bringing the war to a country next to you. soon!"14:32
TomTom;)14:33
[KK]KirillAll other talk me that only american win german14:33
nuclear_eclipsewe used to have a holiday marking the victory over Japan, but it's no longer a politically correct holiday because of the way we "won"14:33
TomTomhey stop, mr obama hit the breaks...14:33
[KK]Kirill:)14:33
TomTomnuclear_eclipse: dont care even the russians dont care.. they wasted millions of lives to obey the orders for their mad dictator...14:34
nuclear_eclipseand while I would probably agree that the US involvement in Europe was the deciding factor in victory, it certainly wasn't our victory -- it was most definitely won by the lives of all the countries involved, esp the massacres on the eastern fronts....14:35
[KK]KirillTomTom: I thisnk soo We have dictator, but we need this dictator14:36
[KK]KirillOur people don't want live if they don't mad14:37
TomTombad signs for the future14:37
[KK]KirillI am sorry that at us have cancelled the death penalty14:38
TomTomthe level of a society can definitly be measured by its opinion about death penalty...  third world societies have the death penalty B)=14:40
[KK]Kirillthird or no... But we need this... It's russian mentality14:52
paulr_TomTom: did you get it working?16:12
TomTompaulr: you did not read it? 15:26 <TomTom> paulr: now the roundtrip worked. i think you shoud definitly change it by default to use the bundled adodb16:16
paulr_ahh16:16
paulr_I read16:16
paulr_but forgot16:16
paulr_right, pub time!16:16
paulr_bbl16:16
TomTomhave fun16:17
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10447 - mkrenzel - open - new17:02
mantisbotNew bug: registration mail send over and over instead of issue updates - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1044717:02
no_mindhow can I add a status to a bug report ?17:57
no_mindI want to have a status like 'wont fix', 'later' and 'rejected' in bug status17:58
nuclear_eclipsehttp://docs.mantisbt.org/master/en/administration_guide/x2193.html17:59
no_mindnuclear_eclipse: seen that but cant figure out which variable is realted to bug status18:09
kinabaluhave you guys ever seen an integration with Mantis and TWiki?18:33
kinabalui'd love for a specific project to do %Mantis[ProjectId]% and get the list of current bugs, etc18:33
nuclear_eclipseno_mind: look for status_enum_string IIRC18:41
* nuclear_eclipse kicks paulr 19:04
siebrandnuclear_eclipse: query history even when disabled is a no brainer. Just get rid of it...20:03
siebrand(does that consume *that* much memory?)20:04
nuclear_eclipsesiebrand: it does when I'm working with pages that import/process about 40,000 + pieces of data :P20:17
siebrandnuclear_eclipse: eew :) Well, get rid of it :)20:18
nuclear_eclipseeg, importing changeset data from a very large repository20:18
nuclear_eclipsealso eg, importing about 14,000 issues from a different tracker20:18
siebrandI can imagine.20:18
paulrlo20:32
mantisbotNew bug: Bug 10448 - traptak - open - new20:53
mantisbotNew bug: Syntax error in polish translation - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1044820:53

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