Friday, 2009-05-29

../irclogs/#mantishelp.2009-05-29.log
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geekleAnyone want to tackle a custom field slowness issue when opening "View Issues" :o)00:10
vb123hey02:50
vb123paul_: post relating to auth plugins - http://www.mantisbt.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=699802:50
vb123Just resent the email relating to 1.2 release.  Let's identify blocking issues or get the 1.2rc1 out of the door.02:56
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nuclear_eclipse09:09 < mib_5ievlf> 10542 is irrelevt17:27
nuclear_eclipsethat one?17:27
paul_yes17:27
nuclear_eclipsesaw it, wasn't sure if that was you or some random entity :P17:28
paul_with the spelling correction from the line below17:28
paul_:P17:28
* paul_ wants to upgrade his mantsiforgebox 17:32
nuclear_eclipseyou're insane17:33
paul_why? :)17:33
nuclear_eclipseor are you talking about package upgrades?17:33
paul_no17:33
paul_box ;p17:33
nuclear_eclipseyou're insane17:33
paul_why? :P17:33
nuclear_eclipseyou aren't even close to hitting capacity as it is....17:33
paul_upgraded box is cheaper :P17:33
paul_anyway17:34
paul_10542 is an irrelevant issue17:34
nuclear_eclipsek17:34
paul_I was thinking about making a new 1.2 beta package this weekend or something17:34
nuclear_eclipseI'd rather you hold off for a week17:35
paul_we need to fix tests17:35
paul_and pick a logo17:35
paul_before an RC17:35
nuclear_eclipseI got a random email from someone following the mantisbt-help list telling me to not top-post...17:40
nuclear_eclipsehappend in reply to one of the responses I'd sent from my G1 phone, where I have no control over where the app puts my text in relation to the quoted section....17:43
paul_:)17:58
paul_nuclear_eclipse: so what are you working on?18:01
nuclear_eclipseI'm working on some fixes and improvements for plugins, including how caching headers work on plugin pages; got some plans for extending email notification flags as requested by multiple mantisbt.org bugs and by my employer, and other minor improvements stemming from the features added in 1.2.x18:03
sshirleyAnyone here or is it all bots? :-)19:30
sshirley*crickets*19:32
sshirleyDeutsch vielleicht?19:40
nuclear_eclipsesshirley: not *all* bots...19:48
sshirleyExcellent!!19:48
sshirley:-)19:48
sshirleyI'm having some really disturbing issues with customizing priority enums. I follow the examples in the manual (http://www.mantisbt.org/manual/manual.customizing.mantis.enumerations.php) but the changes won't stick. Meaning I save the file and the new values in the dropdowns don't appear.19:50
harpreet_singhHi,19:51
nuclear_eclipsesshirley: what version of Mantis?19:52
sshirleyIn config_defaults_inc.php, I have the following string: '$g_priority_enum_string= '10:none,20:low,30:normal,40:high,50:urgent,60:immediate';'. In strings_english.txt, I have:19:52
sshirley$s_priority_enum_string = '10:HOLD,20:P5,30:P4,40:P3,50:P2,60:P1';19:52
sshirley#$s_priority_enum_string = '10:none,20:low,30:normal,40:high,50:urgent,60:immediate';19:52
harpreet_singhI want to add my sharepoint document's URL in the DOC's. Where I have to modified. Now if I click on the User's Documentation it is re-directing to http://manual.mantisbt.org. I want to retain this and add new one.19:53
nuclear_eclipsesshirley: where are you setting the variable?  which file?19:53
sshirleySomeone changed the text a while back to reflex the P1-P5 and I am trying to modify that to say P7 or something. My changes are not appearing. I am using version 1.1.0.19:54
sshirleyNuclear: I am populating that in strings_english.txt19:55
nuclear_eclipsesorry, missed that19:55
sshirleyThe smiley faces above are actually ':' and 'P' together.19:56
nuclear_eclipsesshirley: can you try restarting your web server, make sure it's not caching old versions of the files?19:56
nuclear_eclipsesshirley: I'm using Irssi from a console; I don't get smilies :P19:57
sshirleyNuclear: I am using WAMPServer 2.0. I've restarted it many times but maybe there is some caching going on that I am unaware of.19:58
nuclear_eclipsehmm19:58
nuclear_eclipseso what do you see in the selection list?19:59
sshirleyThe Apache cache module isn't enabled.19:59
sshirleyI see HOLD, P5, P4, P3, P2, P120:00
nuclear_eclipseok, so that matches what you have in your config and strings, so what's the problem?20:02
sshirleyI've been using Firefox all along and I just tried the site in IE7 for the first time (to see if the browser was doing any caching) but no difference.20:02
sshirleyRight, it matches. The thing is I want to modify those strings. To test I tried replacing the P1 with a WA (again, just to test). I saved the file, restarted the server (just to make sure), and the P1 was still there.20:03
nuclear_eclipsedumb questions, and please don't take offense, but I need to eliminate the obvious:20:04
nuclear_eclipseare you sure you're editing the copy of the files that the server is using?  eg, do you need to put them in a special place or upload them to the server first?20:05
sshirleyNo problem. Ask away.20:05
sshirleyI am doing this all locally at the moment20:05
nuclear_eclipsecheck custom_strings_inc.php to make sure there's nothing there to override strings_english.txt; all changes should be made in custom_strings_inc anyways, as it makes upgrades easier20:06
nuclear_eclipsemight be core/custom_* too20:07
sshirleyIn the main directory there are no custom_* files and in core/ all I have are custom_field_api and custom_function_api20:08
nuclear_eclipsehmm20:09
nuclear_eclipsethen I'm rather at a loss as to why changes wouldn't be propogating20:09
sshirley:-)20:10
sshirleyMe too :-)20:10
sshirleyI mean, I don't think my code is calling anything online. I made a copy of our production Mantis install plus the DB. That copy is on my local machine where I am making the changes.20:14
sshirleyThe default is strings_english.txt, right?20:19
nuclear_eclipsedepends on what language you're using, but yes20:19
sshirleyI'm in the US and we're not doing any multilingual stuff20:19
sshirleyNuclear?20:28
nuclear_eclipseyo20:28
sshirleyI feel like a retard20:28
nuclear_eclipseuh oh20:28
sshirleyI was editing in the wrong directory. I had copied the production stuff to my local machine. I unzipped the stuff into a Mantis directory in Temp/. Then I copied Mantis into the C:\wamp\www directory (where it actually lives and runs). Well when I set up my NetBeans project, I pointed it to the Temp/Mantis. :-) :-(20:31
sshirleyDuh20:31
sshirleyThanks for pointing that out20:31
nuclear_eclipseyou're welcome20:31
sshirleyLuckily I have only been on this project since late this morning, so I didn't waste too much time.20:32
nuclear_eclipselol20:33
sshirleySo now in order to do full customizations, I change what the possible values are for the dropdowns in core/constant_inc.php and then define the strings in strings_english.txt (if I want to add and/or delete selections). Correct?20:36
nuclear_eclipseno20:38
nuclear_eclipseyou should customize the $g_*_enum_string in your config_inc.php (leave the config_defaults_inc value alone), and then override the $s_*_enum_string in custom_strings_inc.php (leaving strings_english.txt alone)20:39
irenedakotaHi there. Is there a plugin to integrate Mantis into an IRC server?20:40
nuclear_eclipsebasically, don't modify the existing files, make the modifications in the special files that Mantis uses to override defaults20:40
nuclear_eclipseirenedakota: there's a plugin for Supybot that will do announcements on new/closed issues20:40
nuclear_eclipsehttps://github.com/giallu/supybot-mantis/tree20:40
irenedakotanuclear_eclipse: Thanks, will look into it. Does it allow you to grab bug details from Mantis?20:42
nuclear_eclipsebug 999920:43
mantisbotBug 9999 - arul_k_kumar - fixed - closed20:43
mantisbotAPPLICATION ERROR #2800 - While submit a new bug - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=999920:43
irenedakotaAnd mantisbot is running that plugin?20:44
nuclear_eclipseyep20:44
irenedakotaawesome.20:44
irenedakotaGot to say, I've been comparing Trac, Bugzilla and Mantis and so far Mantis is much nicer then the others20:45
nuclear_eclipseagreed ;)20:45
nuclear_eclipsebut thank you :)20:45
irenedakotalol, pleasure20:46
irenedakotaBugzilla took ages to install, and then it looks horrible and after 3 days of not being able to figure out how to customise it, I gave up.20:46
harpreet_singhI want to add my sharepoint document's URL in the DOC's. Where I have to add it. Now if I click on the User's Documentation it is re-directing to http://manual.mantisbt.org. I want to retain this and add new one.20:47
irenedakotaI'm still trying to get Trac installed.20:47
irenedakotaMantis was a breeze, and it's in php (which I know very well)20:47
nuclear_eclipseharpreet_singh: I don't think that's possible20:47
sshirleyNuclear: So you're saying that I should put the '$g_priority_enum_string= '10:none,20:low,30:normal,40:high,50:urgent,60:immediate';' line into my config_inc.php (along with hostname, db_username, etc) and then create a custom_strings_inc.php (as I currently don't have one) to put in the $s_*_enum_strings?20:48
nuclear_eclipsecorrect20:48
sshirleyNuclear: BTW, are you one of the authors?20:48
nuclear_eclipseyes20:48
sshirleyWow20:48
sshirleyCool :-)20:49
nuclear_eclipse<- jreese, in case you see me on the tracker or the list :P20:49
nuclear_eclipsehi Victor20:49
vb123hi nuclear_eclipse20:49
nuclear_eclipsevb123: will you be online for a while?  I'm about to head home from work, and would like to discuss plans for 1.2 if possible20:50
vb123I will try to.  I think we should branch this weekend, then release rc1 in a week or so.  We can still merge what we think is necessary and ready20:51
vb123from memory, your list didn't have anything that is big.20:51
sshirleySo in my config_inc.php, I currently don't have any string definitions (like $g_priority_enum_string). It's alright to throw those in there? Also, whatever is in custom_string_inc.php will override what is in strings_english.txt?20:51
nuclear_eclipsewell, I do have some features/improvements that I'd like to get in before we branch20:51
vb123Are these what you sent out?20:52
vb123wouldn't be easy to merge them via git?20:52
nuclear_eclipseI'm back to fulltime at work, so I should be able to get these done by the end of next week, if we could put off branching until then20:52
vb123there will always be something in the pipeline that is a reason why we should keep pushing.20:53
nuclear_eclipseyes, but I think it might be a bit to much to merge in *after* an RC release/branch...20:53
vb123once you are ready, someone else will have something.20:53
nuclear_eclipsevb123: well, it's stuff I've needed to get fixed for quite a while20:53
nuclear_eclipseeg, I have a bunch of branches started in my workspace, just need to take the time to finish them and merge to master, and then I can roll an RC20:54
vb123can we do this in a week then?20:54
nuclear_eclipseyep20:54
vb123OK, let's target the following weekend and avoid commiting de-stabilizing or big changes till then.20:54
nuclear_eclipsek20:54
vb123I haven't got feedback from paul_ yet.  So I hope he is on the same page.20:55
vb123specially relating to his date related changes that went in.20:55
nuclear_eclipsethe date stuff seems rather stable for how much it touched20:55
irenedakotaQuick Q. I haven't had a change to look into the documentation in any great details, but I haven't found any information on how to change the look/feel of mantis. Is it in there, or should I be looking somewhere else?20:55
nuclear_eclipseirenedakota: really, your only option on that is to modify the CSS file20:55
vb123you will need to play with the style sheet in the css/ folder.20:55
irenedakotanuclear_eclipse: So there's no centralised templating system?20:56
vb123however, we aren't using the full features of css, e.g. we use tables, etc.  So there is so much you can do.20:56
nuclear_eclipseno templates20:56
vb123you have features to add headers, footers, etc.20:56
irenedakotapity, they make life much easier :) Maybe version 220:56
irenedakotaYou ever play around with CakePHP?20:57
nuclear_eclipseirenedakota: it is indeed a nine year old app :P20:57
irenedakotaWow, didn't know that20:57
nuclear_eclipseand frameworks are basically out of the question unless we decide on a full rewrite of the codebase; ie, no chance20:58
irenedakotaGoing the framework route is a lot of work. I'm currently in the process of rewriting a project of mine using Cake.21:00
irenedakotaHence why I say, maybe version 2 :)21:00
vb123what is your feedback on Cake?21:01
irenedakotaI love it21:03
irenedakotato put it simply21:03
irenedakotaIt is very easy to use, very powerful, has very strict conventions (Which I like). But, the nice thing is that if you want to break the conventions it doesn't get in your way21:07
sshirleyNuclear: I'm out of here. Thanks again!21:14
paul_vb123: yea, a weeks probably good for me21:51
paul_and is the sort of timeframe I spoke to john about / was thinking about before your mail anyway21:52
vb123ok paul_21:53
vb123So branching by June 6th.21:54
paul_wee need to decide on logo first21:54
vb123Logo can come in anytime.21:54
vb123ideally before 1.2 final, but I wouldn't even hold that for the logo.21:55
paul_vb123: sure, but it's still important :)22:52
paul_at least,22:52
paul_another question might be22:52
paul_do we need to cfhange current one?22:52
paul_(I assume answer is yes to reflect bt22:53
vb123paul_: The generic requirements for a logo are:23:02
vb1231. nice23:02
vb1232. art available in vector format.23:02
vb1233. If it includes name, then it should reflect "BT".23:02

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