Saturday, 2009-06-13

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vb123paul_: why the smacking?00:02
nuclear_eclipsehi again vb12300:03
vb123hey nuclear_eclipse00:03
paul_vb123: for screwing up security fixes :P00:17
vb123what do you mean?00:17
paul_spotted a bug in a security fix you made in 2005 :)00:29
* paul_ is gaming atm00:29
dhx_mnuclear_eclipse: thanks, I rewrote rm-hardcoded-enum from 10330 so that it doesn't rename the constants06:23
[KK]Kirilldhx_m: lo06:36
[KK]Kirilldhx_m: good work06:36
dhx_mhey06:40
dhx_mty06:40
[KK]Kirilllook bug 899406:41
dhx_mmantisbt.org is offline at the moment so I can't sorry :)06:41
[KK]Kirilloh... badly...06:42
[KK]KirillCannot login when down for maintenance06:42
dhx_mwhen mantisoffline.php is in place?06:42
[KK]KirillAfter creating a page 'mantis_offline.php' to take my bugtracker offline06:43
dhx_myep, you can't login?06:43
[KK]KirillPage 'mantis_offline.php' is properly displayed as expected. If I add06:43
[KK]Kirill?mbadmin=106:43
[KK]Kirillto the login_page.php url, I do see the login page06:43
[KK]Kirillhowever, I cannot login to my bugtracker. I get bounced back to the mantis_offline.php page.06:43
dhx_mok let me test it :)06:43
[KK]KirillIt's leblancma's issue, but I test now - it's not work for me too06:44
[KK]KirillI don't think this issue major, but I think this not hard for fix06:45
dhx_myeah sounds easy06:47
[KK]Kirill:)06:52
dhx_mI find it hard to believe there are 420 followers of Mantis on twitter07:11
dhx_mmaybe it works so well for them, that we never hear comments on IRC? :D07:11
dhx_m[KK]Kirill: I can confirm the problem07:23
[KK]Kirilldhx_m: I can confirm too :)07:24
[KK]Kirilldhx_m: did you have a twitter?07:25
dhx_mnope07:25
[KK]Kirill:)07:25
dhx_mwas just going a google search :)07:26
dhx_mMantis is apparently the 4th most popular bug tracker in the Eclipse community (http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/top-6-insights-from-the-eclipse-community-survey/)07:27
dhx_mmaybe higher, because the Mantis option wasn't on the poll07:27
[KK]KirillI reed this. But last Malyn Mantis not work correctly (read NOT WORK) with mantisbt from last git07:31
dhx_mit looks like the project is dead?07:33
[KK]Kirillnot.07:33
dhx_mlast update 200707:33
[KK]Kirillbut they work with stable version07:33
[KK]Kirillyuu talk about http://mylyn-mantis.wiki.sourceforge.net/ ?07:34
[KK]Kirillyou*07:34
dhx_myep07:35
dhx_mis that what you talk about?07:35
[KK]KirillVersion 3.0.2.200905032011 (3.0.2 final)07:35
dhx_mthe latest file they offer is from the start of 200707:37
[KK]KirillOh.. I understand07:38
[KK]KirillAll updates from link07:38
[KK]Kirillhttp://mylyn-mantis.sourceforge.net/eclipse/update/site.xml07:38
[KK]Kirillor http://mylyn-mantis.sourceforge.net/eclipse/update-dev/site.xml07:38
dhx_mah ok07:39
dhx_mI didn't notice that07:39
dhx_mmust be your typical sourceforge site that is 2 years out of date07:40
dhx_msourceforge died about 2 years ago07:40
dhx_mit seems they're trying to make a comeback07:40
dhx_mI've gtg now07:41
dhx_mbut I'll check out bug 8994 later07:41
mantisbotBug 8994 - leblancma - open - acknowledged07:41
mantisbotCannot login when down for maintenance - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=899407:41
[KK]KirillI use google, but they don't support git07:41
dhx_mI suspect the current &mbadmin=1 thing is completely broken when it comes to custom access levels (what is an administrator?)07:42
dhx_mbut I'll have a look at it :)07:42
dhx_mcya later07:42
siebrandnext alpha or first beta release of 1.2 is overdue... a2 was Aug. 2008, a3 was Jan 2009.08:16
* paul_ yawns11:01
paul_dhx_m: your european?11:02
* paul_ pokes vb123 12:20
paul_good morning12:20
dhx_mpaul_: Aussie :)13:43
dhx_mnuclear_eclipse: when you're about, can you reopen bug 3973 as it wasn't included in my fixes for 10330 (yet)13:46
mantisbotBug 3973 - Wanderer - fixed - resolved13:46
mantisbot"Reporter effectiveness" on summary calculated wrongly in case of using custom-severity attributes - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=397313:46
dhx_mI'll fix it now13:46
dhx_mactually I'll wait for git.mantisbt.org to come back up :)13:51
siebrandhaving a lot of trouble updating git the last few days.13:51
siebrandindeed, dhx_m13:51
dhx_myep13:51
dhx_mhas been offline a lot of the time (apparently the httpd process was eating up 100% CPU the last few times?)13:51
* nuclear_eclipse to the rescue13:53
dhx_m:)13:53
nuclear_eclipsegit-daemon started13:53
dhx_mty13:53
nuclear_eclipsenot sure why it's stopped auto-starting on reboot...13:53
dhx_mdoesn't like us anymore13:55
dhx_mit wanted some rest from all the work going on :p13:55
paul_moo guys13:57
dhx_mboo13:57
paul_what am i doing with bugobject changes ;/13:57
paul_as i'm stacking up patches atm ;/13:57
dhx_myeah it'll get hard to merge it if left too long13:57
nuclear_eclipsepaul_: vb123 wanted you to post a diff/link on the mailint list for review...13:57
nuclear_eclipseand branches help with that problem, you know ;)13:58
paul_it's in mantisforge13:58
nuclear_eclipseanywho, breakfast time, cheers13:58
dhx_myep, but you'll get more conflicts the longer it is left13:58
dhx_mok :)13:58
dhx_mdoes it need some testing?13:58
* paul_ shrugs :)13:58
paul_well, you could take a look ;p13:58
dhx_mbugobjects3?13:59
dhx_mor 11June?13:59
paul_11th june is where i'm playing atm14:00
dhx_mbtw do you know how to kill branches like dates1-3 that have been merged?14:00
dhx_mok14:00
paul_nope ;/14:00
paul_ffs14:00
paul_firefox isn't rendering page14:00
dhx_mgit push mforge :dates314:00
dhx_mwhere 'mforge' is the name you've given your remote repository14:00
dhx_mthe difference this time is the colon in front of the branch name14:01
dhx_mwhich tells it to delete the old branch14:01
dhx_mlocally it is just git branch -D branchname14:01
dhx_mto remove a branch (a bit more logical)14:01
siebranddhx_m: get commit access to mantisbt.git? Troubles over... If you have shown sufficient activity, that shouldn't be too much of a problem...14:04
paul_i've broken firefox :(14:05
dhx_msiebrand: nah, this is in reference to paul's repo @ mantisforge14:05
dhx_mso only he can fix that :)14:05
siebrandright14:05
* siebrand has a hard time taking care of git@mantisbt.org already, let alone to start shopping elsewhere.14:05
dhx_mhah, I must say I haven't really worked out how to merge remote branches14:08
dhx_mI imagine it is easy though14:08
dhx_mit did take me a few days to get used to git14:08
dhx_mbut I'm never going back now14:08
dhx_mit would be nice if git allowed you to have custom fields for each commit14:08
dhx_mfor instance: bug id, reviewer, etc14:09
dhx_mbut then again I haven't heard of any VCS that is that customisable14:09
paul_dhx_m: dhx_m i've updated branch to 13June - it seems to not like pushing if i've rebased locally14:16
dhx_mhmm interesting14:16
dhx_mare you pushing on top of an existing branch?14:16
paul_was trying to14:17
dhx_mah you probably need to delete the 13June branch on mantisforge and then push it again... if you have done a rebase after the initial push14:17
dhx_mgit normally only pushes the changes, rather than the whole branch14:17
dhx_mpaul_: with the new javascript/min ... can't you minimise it even more by renaming variables to 1/2 character things?14:19
* paul_ pokes siebrand 14:19
paul_dhx_m: it's just run yuicompressor over it14:19
dhx_mah ok, I guess it doesn't do that then :)14:20
paul_siebrand: can you modified tag_detach for non-english languages to use \' instead of "14:20
dhx_moh wait, maybe it does compress variable/function names afterall14:20
siebrandpaul_: they all do use '' unless there's an apostrophe in the message, in which case it falls back to "", unless there are both a " and ' in the message, in which case '' is used.14:22
paul_siebrand: see what i just pushed to my branch: http://git.mantisforge.org/w/mantisbt/paul.git?a=commitdiff;h=df25233ad649d7b9c5bf6e88f38c45bd2231780414:23
siebrandpaul_: that will fail if " is used?14:24
paul_in html we write out the stirng in a tooltip14:24
paul_so atm we have tooltip="<lang>"14:24
siebrandpaul_: cannot for a certain usage of that type of markers to translators...14:24
paul_which becomes14:24
paul_tooltip="detach "1221""14:25
siebrandpaul_: there are at least 5 different quoting styles in use, of not more. "" is one of them.14:25
* paul_ nods14:25
siebrandpaul_: process it to avoid it from happening?14:25
paul_i'd rather just fix the lang files ;/14:26
dhx_mwhat should we be using?14:26
paul_for this one case14:26
dhx_mI noticed the other day that \n doesn't work when using apostrophes around strings (only work with quotation marks(14:26
siebrandpaul_: well, that's a one time thing, and some translators will just revert me.14:26
siebrandpaul_: the proper solution is to support use of " in the message.14:26
siebranddhx_m: yes, that's an interesting one :)14:27
dhx_msiebrand: my first thought was that one method was 'dumb' for performance reasons, and the other had fancy formatting stuff which makes it slower for PHP to parse/use14:28
siebrandI have no idea on the backgrounds of those things...14:28
paul_dhx_m: so erm, how do i delete a remote ?14:29
dhx_mpretend you're pushing changes to a remote branch... but place a colon in front of the branch name14:30
dhx_mthat tells git to delete the remote branch14:30
dhx_mexample:14:30
dhx_mgit push mforge :dates14:30
dhx_mwhere mforge is the name you gave your remote repo (much like 'origin')14:31
dhx_mand dates is the name of the branch you want to delete remotely14:31
paul_dhx_m: repull 13June branch14:31
dhx_msiebrand: it seems that double quoted strings do in fact have a lot of special abilities (that will most certainly slow it down)14:32
* paul_ just needs to know if he can push that branch ;/14:32
dhx_myou mean merge it into master?14:33
paul_yep ;p14:33
dhx_mwell don't ask me :p but I can try it out to see if it breaks :)14:33
paul_(i'd merged bugobjects into my local master with a view to push it when victor suggested he wanted to review it more14:34
dhx_mone suggestion I had was to update the docbook documentation for the new $g_minimal_jscss setting14:35
dhx_msiebrand: you can use php variables within double quoted strings... example: "The number is $number and this is very special."14:38
dhx_mthat will replace $number with the PHP variable $number14:39
dhx_mso I guess it is best to use single quotation marks wherever possible14:39
paul_we do14:39
dhx_myep14:39
dhx_mthe reporter/developer effectiveness metric in the summary page is stupid14:53
dhx_malmost as bad as judging developers by the lines of code they produce IMO14:53
dhx_m*number of lines of code14:54
[KK]Kirilllo14:56
[KK]Kirilljohn, you around?14:57
siebrandgiven the current planning for 1.2.first, should be freeze feature additions, or branch 1.2.0?15:08
siebrand(only 6 planned open issues left)15:09
[KK]Kirillsiebrand: did you put last english to translatewiki?15:14
siebrand[KK]Kirill: yes15:14
[KK]Kirillthanks15:14
[KK]KirillI translate it. Please put in git to monday.15:17
[KK]KirillJogn, can you place you plugins-lang to translatewiki? It can be simple for translate15:18
paul_dhx_m: btw, was you looking at branch ?15:20
[KK]KirillI'm sorry, John15:20
[KK]Kirill:/15:21
dhx_mpaul_: not yet sorry15:21
paul_nuclear_eclipse: mo?16:51
[KK]Kirillsiebrand: bug 1058517:15
mantisbotBug 10585 - Kirill - open - new17:15
mantisbotstring not found manage_import_issues_link - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=1058517:15
[KK]Kirillpaul_: lo17:15
paul_lo17:15
[KK]Kirillpaul, when I can see in mantisbt.git?17:33
CIA-61Mantisbt: s.mazeland * r00818389e1b7 / (lang/strings_english.txt login_page.php): Take span class out of message17:45

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