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| Heady| | are there any planned dates for the stable 1.2 release? | 11:44 |
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| dhx_z | hi | 11:46 |
| dhx_z | nothing planned afaik | 11:46 |
| dhx_z | it's more a case of when the few remaining bugs are fixed | 11:46 |
| Heady| | any important things are open? | 11:48 |
| dhx_z | anonymous users are always shown the login screen | 11:48 |
| dhx_z | maybe a few more from http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/roadmap_page.php | 11:49 |
| Heady| | ok thx | 11:54 |
| Heady| | I will wait for the next year ;) | 11:54 |
| dhx_z | are you installing a new copy of Mantis? | 11:55 |
| Heady| | no | 11:58 |
| Heady| | for 5-6 weeks i upgraded from 1.1.1 to 1.1.8 | 11:58 |
| Heady| | but as there are some featurerequests I think we need the pluginsystem | 11:58 |
| Heady| | by the way is a redesign of the configuration page in the config planned? | 11:59 |
| Heady| | its really a pain to scroll trough this list if you have like 50+ projects | 11:59 |
| dhx_z | yeah the UI configuration of Mantis is in desperate need of attention | 11:59 |
| dhx_z | although I suspect it isn't a high priority at the moment | 12:00 |
| dhx_z | well... not quite yet ;) | 12:00 |
| Heady| | simplest would be a filter for project/user/configoption | 12:00 |
| ln- | roadmap_page is quite empty, is that a bug | 12:00 |
| dhx_z | I think one of the major tasks at the moment is converting the code base into more modern code (OO) | 12:00 |
| dhx_z | and splitting out views and logic into separate parts | 12:01 |
| dhx_z | (templates, new UI, etc) | 12:01 |
| Heady| | alot of work with no "real viewable" effort in mantis :D | 12:01 |
| dhx_z | ln-: works fine for me, you need to have issues targeted towards versions that haven't been marked as 'released' or 'obsoleted' | 12:01 |
| dhx_z | partly true, although it would lead to a new UI | 12:02 |
| dhx_z | which is desperately needed :D | 12:02 |
| ln- | dhx_z: i meant the very roadmap_page your url pointed to | 12:02 |
| dhx_z | ln-: oh you're right, that is a bug in the current version of 1.2.x when you're an anonymous user | 12:02 |
| dhx_z | I'll get the bug ID | 12:03 |
| dhx_z | so you can monitor it if you like | 12:03 |
| dhx_z | bug 11031 | 12:03 |
| ln- | thanks | 12:04 |
| dhx_z | I've bumped the priority and severity | 12:04 |
| dhx_z | hopefully we'll be able to fix that soon :) | 12:05 |
| dhx_z | I'm currently working on drafting out some ideas for a new access control system in Mantis | 12:05 |
| dhx_z | which would be a large component towards supporting groups of users in Mantis | 12:05 |
| dhx_z | one of the most requested features ;) | 12:06 |
| Heady| | groups? ^^ | 12:07 |
| Heady| | sounds interesting :D | 12:08 |
| dhx_z | well my idea is to use something similar to RBAC (role based access control) | 12:08 |
| dhx_z | so instead of having access levels | 12:08 |
| dhx_z | you have finer grained permission controls for different roles in your development team/community | 12:08 |
| dhx_z | roles may be things like "Software Engineer", "QA Lead", "Project Manager", etc | 12:09 |
| Heady| | you plan a gui for it or not? | 12:09 |
| dhx_z | working out the low level stuff first (database structure, classes, etc) | 12:09 |
| Heady| | atm its a bid strange as sum permissions can be set in the gui and others have to be set via variables | 12:09 |
| dhx_z | but yeah, it'd need a UI too | 12:09 |
| Heady| | I need to read the default config quite often | 12:09 |
| dhx_z | that's because the configuration UI has been neglected for so long | 12:09 |
| Heady| | and sometimes I wonder why some single config options are in the online config page | 12:10 |
| dhx_z | it wouldn't be hard to add all the configuration access levels of the UI as-is | 12:10 |
| dhx_z | but I guess we've all been slack :) | 12:10 |
| Heady| | so some checkboxes seem to set more than 1 value | 12:10 |
| dhx_z | some bits are ugly, I must admit | 12:10 |
| dhx_z | part of the reason I'm planning an overhaul of the access controls | 12:11 |
| dhx_z | to make it easier/more modern/more customisable | 12:11 |
| Heady| | will be hard to upgrade with a completly new system:D | 12:11 |
| Heady| | in mantis 1.3 or 1.4? :D | 12:11 |
| dhx_z | yeah lol, not so sure | 12:11 |
| dhx_z | at the moment I'm struggling a little with working things out | 12:11 |
| dhx_z | I have a grand list of features I'd like | 12:12 |
| dhx_z | such as separation of duties (the person that wrote code to fix an issue can't also review the code), multiple authorisation (two guests could combine their powers to bump severity higher), etc | 12:13 |
| ch750536 | Morning guys | 12:32 |
| ch750536 | a bit noob but trying to get notes to accept tables (html). Searching for 'html' or 'tables' in the mantis issue list is like searching for 'porn' on the interweb. Anyone point me in the right direction? | 12:33 |
| dhx_z | see $g_html_valid_tags | 12:34 |
| dhx_z | I'm not sure it'll work, but you can try | 12:34 |
| dhx_z | you'd need to add $g_html_valid_tags .= 'table, tr, td, th' to your config_inc.php file | 12:35 |
| dhx_z | oops | 12:35 |
| dhx_z | make that: | 12:35 |
| dhx_z | $g_html_valid_tags .= ', table, tr, td, th'; | 12:35 |
| ch750536 | that had a very odd effect | 12:38 |
| ch750536 | :) | 12:38 |
| ch750536 | some html tables worked, rest of the code for the page trashed... | 12:38 |
| Heady| | add the closing tags too | 12:38 |
| ch750536 | possibly my test examples. let me clean up | 12:38 |
| Heady| | just a guess :D | 12:39 |
| dhx_z | no need for closing tags, they're implied afaik | 12:39 |
| dhx_z | now you know why we don't recommend adding too many HTML tags :) | 12:40 |
| dhx_z | they're far too complex to support | 12:40 |
| dhx_z | we'd have to ensure each tag is closed correctly for instance | 12:40 |
| dhx_z | so that the rest of the page is unaffected | 12:40 |
| ch750536 | Understood, guys thanks for your help, anytime you need a beer pop in. | 12:42 |
| dhx_z | no problem | 12:42 |
| dhx_z | what you're after is something that would be ideally suited to a plugin I think | 12:42 |
| dhx_z | but you'd have to be extremely careful with parsing and sanitising user input | 12:43 |
| norbertm | hi | 12:47 |
| dhx_z | hi | 12:47 |
| norbertm | I'd like to report an api-soap bug but I am not receiving the confirmation email at http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/signup_page.php though my email address is working properly | 12:48 |
| norbertm | can somebody please check if you receive the confirmation email? | 12:48 |
| norbertm | can be a password reminder as well | 12:49 |
| dhx_z | is this the signup confirmation email? | 12:49 |
| norbertm | yes | 12:49 |
| norbertm | but I am not receiving the password reminder mail either | 12:49 |
| norbertm | although that may be because my account is not active yet | 12:49 |
| norbertm | no error messages though | 12:50 |
| norbertm | argh.. they just arrived | 12:50 |
| norbertm | sorry | 12:50 |
| dhx_z | ah yeah that's ok | 12:50 |
| norbertm | there was a little delay | 12:51 |
| norbertm | thanks | 12:51 |
| dhx_z | usually emails are sent in bulk every few minutes via cron job | 12:51 |
| dhx_z | it's better for performance that way | 12:51 |
| dhx_z | otherwise you have to wait for a PHP page to load while the email is sent (it takes a while) | 12:51 |
| dhx_z | so it happens async in the background for you :) | 12:51 |
| dhx_z | at the cost of a slight delay | 12:51 |
| dhx_z | before you report | 12:52 |
| dhx_z | which version of Mantis are you using? | 12:52 |
| dhx_z | I suggest testing against the latest 1.2.x git master version | 12:52 |
| dhx_z | as it has received a lot of fixes lately | 12:52 |
| norbertm | 1.2.0rc2 | 12:52 |
| norbertm | thanks, I'll try | 12:53 |
| dhx_z | yep see http://git.mantisbt.org/?p=mantisbt.git;a=shortlog | 12:53 |
| dhx_z | there have been a number of SOAP API fixes since 1.2.0rc2 | 12:53 |
| norbertm | can you tell if there's any easy way to tell whether a bug occurs in the mantis soap api vs the mylyn-mantis bridge? | 12:53 |
| dhx_z | actually http://git.mantisbt.org/?p=mantisbt.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master-1.2.x is more useful :) | 12:54 |
| norbertm | or in other words, is there any soap api tester or example available? | 12:54 |
| dhx_z | there are some unit tests for the SOAP API if that is what you mean? | 12:54 |
| norbertm | yes, that will be perfect | 12:54 |
| norbertm | I can extend them if it they do not cover the issue | 12:55 |
| dhx_z | see http://git.mantisbt.org/?p=mantisbt.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e0b5d60139163494fb7778d04fd0362b93f10c3 | 12:55 |
| norbertm | it's that the product version does not propagate to mylyn (eclipse) anymore | 12:55 |
| norbertm | it worked until 1.1.8 for sure | 12:55 |
| dhx_z | you may want to send an email to the developer mailing list if you are interested in technical advice/help on fixing problems | 12:56 |
| dhx_z | it'll get attention from developers that work on the SOAP API part of Mantis | 12:56 |
| dhx_z | but yeah, I advise you to try the latest 1.2.x git master first | 12:56 |
| norbertm | thanks | 12:56 |
| norbertm | I'll try to track it down first | 12:56 |
| dhx_z | and report a bug if the problem exists :) | 12:56 |
| dhx_z | thanks | 12:56 |
| dhx_z | Robert will be interested in any bugs you find | 12:57 |
| dhx_z | (and will most likely get them fixed quickly too) | 12:57 |
| dhx_z | or if you are up to it, patches (git format) are welcomed too :) | 12:57 |
| norbertm | unfortunately I only use SVN right now but I'll be able to provide some kind of patch if I can track down the issue | 12:59 |
| norbertm | and I will :) | 13:00 |
| norbertm | thanks | 13:00 |
| norbertm | cu | 13:00 |
| dhx_z | great, thanks | 13:01 |
| mantisbot | Bug 11031 - hubdog - open - assigned | 13:17 |
| mantisbot | Can not view changelog page without login as user - http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=11031 | 13:18 |
| paulr_ | dhx_z: moo | 14:46 |
| doy | has anyone succeeded in using the soap api from perl? | 18:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | doy: I don't know, but people have used the SOAP api from Java and Python | 19:29 |
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