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| siebrand | can we block maheshvats.it? He doesn't seem to get it. | 05:47 |
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| dhx_m | I wish torrents of spam on maheshvats.it's inbox | 09:25 |
| dhx_m | ARGGGGH | 14:09 |
| dhx_m | *catches breath* | 14:10 |
| nuclear_eclipse | hi dhx_m | 14:10 |
| dhx_m | ARRRRGHGHGHGHRH | 14:10 |
| dhx_m | I'm about to explode in a ball of flames | 14:10 |
| nuclear_eclipse | having a good day, I see? | 14:10 |
| dhx_m | lol nah I'm doing well... just frustrated with the level of incompetence on the bug tracker/mailing list :p | 14:11 |
| nuclear_eclipse | ah | 14:11 |
| nuclear_eclipse | yeah, I've alredy grown the caluses to ignore most of the stupidity | 14:11 |
| dhx_m | I think I'm going to make a plugin for MantisBT that forces people to read ESR's smart questions guide by asking them multiple choice questions at the end | 14:12 |
| dhx_m | if they get it wrong, no account for you | 14:12 |
| dhx_m | :) | 14:12 |
| nuclear_eclipse | hehe | 14:13 |
| dhx_m | yeah there is a reason I don't visit the forum/help mailing list here :) | 14:13 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I've been really meaning to finish the work I started on my announcements plugin so that I could put it on mantisbt.org to tell people "THIS IS NOT A DEMO, GO PLAY ELSEWHERE" | 14:14 |
| dhx_m | lol | 14:14 |
| dhx_m | they guy is STILL posting tests after I emailed him asking him to stop (I was in such a generous mood today heh) | 14:15 |
| nuclear_eclipse | viewer account it is | 14:15 |
| dhx_m | he replied with an email that didn't acknowledge my email at all... instead it asked some stupid questions that no one could answer | 14:15 |
| dhx_m | aka "it broke. how do i fix plz?" with no further information | 14:16 |
| dhx_m | a MantisBT 0.19 user I bet :p | 14:16 |
| nuclear_eclipse | just updated his account to viewer access | 14:16 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I would have done that sooner if I had been around a PC much this weekend | 14:17 |
| nuclear_eclipse | was spending all my time trying to finalize buying a new car for my wife | 14:18 |
| dhx_m | ohhh nice :) | 14:19 |
| dhx_m | I guess the most important question then is... what colour? :p | 14:19 |
| nuclear_eclipse | yeah, except now my car decided it was ready to die | 14:19 |
| nuclear_eclipse | just my type of luck | 14:19 |
| dhx_m | ouch | 14:20 |
| nuclear_eclipse | so now I gotta put about $600 into just the bare minimum fixes, not even counting the growing list of other issues I've been putting off... | 14:20 |
| nuclear_eclipse | but I def can't spring for *another* car right now... | 14:21 |
| dhx_m | repairing cars is expensive, yeah | 14:23 |
| nuclear_eclipse | it's running on bandaids and unicorns atm until the shop can order in the needed parts... | 14:23 |
| dhx_m | lol | 14:23 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I just seem to have bad luck on getting cars that need *lots* of simultaneous, expensive fixes | 14:24 |
| nuclear_eclipse | let's see, it needs: | 14:24 |
| nuclear_eclipse | a new AC evaporator $800ish, a new turn signal control unit $500ish, new tires $300, bearing plate + struts for safety fix $600, and more that I can't even remember atm | 14:25 |
| nuclear_eclipse | oh, multiple points on the body are rusting, but ironically not at the giant impact crater where a deer ran into the side of my car... | 14:26 |
| dhx_m | 500 turn signal control unit?!? | 14:27 |
| nuclear_eclipse | yes, because it's integrated in the control stalk that also controls the head lamps and dashboard dimmer | 14:27 |
| dhx_m | ah, BCU (body control unit)? | 14:28 |
| dhx_m | or a separate lighting unit? | 14:28 |
| nuclear_eclipse | oh, and the power window controller is dying, and makes the windows go up and down extremely slowly | 14:28 |
| nuclear_eclipse | don't know what it's called, but it controls the brightness of the guage backlights | 14:29 |
| nuclear_eclipse | oh yeah, and my back right seatbelt doesn't work | 14:30 |
| dhx_m | :( | 14:30 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I <3 American cars | 14:30 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I made sure my wife got a reliable Japanese car :P | 14:31 |
| junior1987 | hello everyone | 14:31 |
| nuclear_eclipse | howdy | 14:31 |
| junior1987 | Is there someone in here that can point me in the right direction for generating dynamic lists in a custom field? | 14:32 |
| junior1987 | the documentation with mantis seems very weak in this regard | 14:32 |
| junior1987 | what I would like to do is write a simple SQL query to read a table | 14:33 |
| junior1987 | and display the values in the custom field list | 14:33 |
| dhx_m | nuclear_eclipse: how old is your car? | 14:34 |
| dhx_m | junior1987: that isn't possible with custom fields, you'll need to use MantisBT 1.2.x and create a plugin to add the field | 14:34 |
| junior1987 | thank you for the response dhx_m | 14:35 |
| dhx_m | junior1987: and even then it'll be a bit of work to get working as I don't think there are event hooks/infrastructure in place to add new fields | 14:35 |
| dhx_m | junior1987: generally plugins create a new collapsible section in the bug report | 14:35 |
| junior1987 | i see. | 14:35 |
| dhx_m | junior1987: I'm not sure what your application is, but that approach of using a separate section may work better for you anyway | 14:36 |
| dhx_m | junior1987: I do have long term plans regarding how fields/custom fields work in MantisBT (ie. making it extensible in an OO sense) | 14:36 |
| junior1987 | basically what I would like to do is have the user have a list of codes that they can chose from | 14:36 |
| junior1987 | when entering a ticket | 14:37 |
| dhx_m | junior1987: but it's just an idea at the moment... the "need it working now" approach is to write a plugin and ask us to add hooks in places where they may be needed | 14:37 |
| dhx_m | but the list of codes can change on any sort of condition? | 14:37 |
| dhx_m | ie. how do those codes change? | 14:37 |
| junior1987 | i have created a table in the mantis db called "codes" | 14:38 |
| junior1987 | there are possibly 300 rows of codes in there. | 14:38 |
| junior1987 | i would like to build a multiselection box (custom field) in the report issue page | 14:39 |
| junior1987 | based on whats in that table called "codes" | 14:39 |
| junior1987 | does it make sense to you? | 14:41 |
| dhx_m | yep | 14:42 |
| dhx_m | at present we have the multiselect custom field type | 14:42 |
| dhx_m | however the values are stored as a concatenated string of values separated with pipes (|) | 14:43 |
| dhx_m | which is ugly and slow | 14:43 |
| dhx_m | (and hard to update/etc) | 14:43 |
| junior1987 | yes..the updating part is the bigger issue | 14:43 |
| dhx_m | you could do what you're asking but it wouldn't really integrate with the filtering system of MantisBT | 14:43 |
| junior1987 | i think that would be okay as an interim solution | 14:44 |
| dhx_m | it's easy to write a plugin to show a selection box on the report, update, view, etc pages | 14:44 |
| dhx_m | however it's not so easy (AFAIK... I could be wrong) to add your own filter to let people filter issues based on which values in your custom multiselect field are selected | 14:45 |
| dhx_m | speaking of which, hi daryn :) | 14:45 |
| daryn | howdy | 14:45 |
| daryn | wassup | 14:45 |
| dhx_m | I'm back into MantisBT development now :) | 14:46 |
| daryn | nice | 14:46 |
| dhx_m | I should celebrate by starting on my two month long backlog of issues heh :) | 14:46 |
| daryn | maybe i should push my branch... | 14:46 |
| dhx_m | filters? | 14:47 |
| daryn | i have stage one filter upgrade working | 14:47 |
| daryn | fairly major stage i spose | 14:47 |
| junior1987 | hmmm | 14:48 |
| daryn | i have to piece together the commit | 14:48 |
| dhx_m | I was going to ask if it's on mantisforge but it's offline again (so reliable it is :p) | 14:48 |
| daryn | i have a github but it isn't up there yet | 14:48 |
| dhx_m | ok | 14:48 |
| dhx_m | does it change bug_update.php? :) | 14:48 |
| daryn | work has me focusing on a demo for thursday so i haven't been able to get to it | 14:48 |
| dhx_m | yep | 14:48 |
| daryn | let me check on bug update | 14:49 |
| daryn | don't see bug update in the list | 14:49 |
| junior1987 | dhx_m: i know the question is forward but could you reccomend possibly an alternative problem tracking tool? | 14:50 |
| junior1987 | that could have that functionality natively built in | 14:50 |
| daryn | what was the question regarding custom filters? | 14:51 |
| dhx_m | junior1987: I'm happy to recommend other bug tracking software... but I'm not so sure about the internal workings of alternatives | 14:51 |
| dhx_m | daryn: custom fields... we currently store them as concatenated strings for multilist/checkbox/radio/etc | 14:51 |
| dhx_m | daryn: whereas he needs the values to be stored as separate rows (which makes more sense) | 14:52 |
| daryn | k | 14:52 |
| dhx_m | junior1987: I'd probably suggest trying Bugzilla, Trac and Redmine to see how they store custom field values | 14:52 |
| dhx_m | afaik they all should have multi selection custom field types... but I haven't used them enough to know | 14:53 |
| dhx_m | MantisBT is actually one of the more customisable issue trackers available | 14:53 |
| dhx_m | and it's written in the programming language that most people can become familiar with easily | 14:53 |
| junior1987 | yeah I know. | 14:53 |
| daryn | it does make more sense from a normalization standpoint | 14:53 |
| junior1987 | mantisbt is actually perfect with this exception | 14:53 |
| daryn | what is that you need separate fields for ? | 14:53 |
| junior1987 | i need to build a dynamic multiselection box in the report page for "codes" | 14:54 |
| dhx_m | I'm the first the criticise custom fields in MantisBT for being outdated... that's what I was talking about before about my plans to redo the field support with an extendible OO system | 14:54 |
| daryn | dynamic in what way? | 14:54 |
| dhx_m | daryn: the problem is he needs to change the possible values of those fields in real time | 14:55 |
| daryn | what are the conditions for the change? | 14:55 |
| dhx_m | daryn: externally controlled afaik | 14:55 |
| junior1987 | i would be using the phpmyadmin import function to update the table as needed | 14:56 |
| dhx_m | daryn: so he could get the other program to rewrite the concatenated possible_values string in the MantisBT database each time the fields change | 14:56 |
| dhx_m | daryn: but that would be somewhat slow/cumbersome with the 300 values he has | 14:56 |
| junior1987 | could be more values in the future | 14:56 |
| dhx_m | actually I don't think that would be so much of an issue | 14:57 |
| dhx_m | 300 isn't that many I would have thought | 14:57 |
| dhx_m | but then again I haven't tried it with so many :) | 14:57 |
| daryn | usually select boxes are slow due to html rendering, not backend | 14:58 |
| daryn | 300 doesn't seem much to me either | 14:58 |
| junior1987 | plus based on the documentation that I read, isn't the concatenated values limited to 255 | 14:58 |
| junior1987 | ? | 14:58 |
| dhx_m | selecting values from 300 in a select box sounds horrible to me though :p | 14:58 |
| daryn | well...you got me there | 14:58 |
| daryn | i do have a branch which allows a longtext value | 14:59 |
| dhx_m | probably... I imagine the field in the database is a varchar(255) | 14:59 |
| daryn | we are planning to add that it's just been a discussion as to whether or not we can just make the current strings table use a longtext or not | 14:59 |
| dhx_m | daryn: would a completely rewritten bug_update.php get in the way of your filter branch? | 14:59 |
| daryn | i think the decision was we cannot | 14:59 |
| daryn | we need a new table for longtext values | 15:00 |
| daryn | i don't think so dh_m | 15:00 |
| daryn | dhx_m | 15:00 |
| daryn | fat fingers | 15:00 |
| dhx_m | :) | 15:00 |
| nuclear_eclipse | dhx_m: it's a 2000 Chrysler | 15:00 |
| dhx_m | nuclear_eclipse: ah I see, 10 years then | 15:01 |
| daryn | hi nuclear_eclipse, a bit off topic, eh? :) | 15:01 |
| * dhx_m notes to self to sell any car before it gets to 10 years of age :p | 15:01 | |
| nuclear_eclipse | daryn: this is an offtopic channel, didn't you know? :P | 15:01 |
| daryn | either that or drive it till the wheels come off | 15:01 |
| dhx_m | daryn: just following on from the completely random tangents that our mailing list users go on :p | 15:02 |
| nuclear_eclipse | daryn: that's what is about to happen to mine :P | 15:02 |
| daryn | heh | 15:02 |
| daryn | buy german | 15:02 |
| * daryn needs some coffee | 15:03 | |
| junior1987 | okay guys thanks for your help. would love to use this tool since it has everything but for us this is th only major drawback | 15:04 |
| junior1987 | cant satisfy everyone i guess :O) | 15:04 |
| dhx_m | yep that's the problem with trying to find off-the-shelf software :) | 15:05 |
| dhx_m | if you do find something that works I'd be interested in hearing about it (so I can use it as a reference when redoing MantisBT's Field API... if I get around to that) :) | 15:06 |
| junior1987 | please get around to it :O) | 15:07 |
| junior1987 | seems like such a simple thing but I am sure theres more involved | 15:07 |
| daryn | nuclear_eclipse, dhx_m would you mind if i push a temp commit that's just all mashed together for review? I'd like to get you guys looking at the filter changes sooner rather than later | 15:07 |
| daryn | to github | 15:08 |
| dhx_m | please do :) | 15:08 |
| daryn | nuclear_eclipse is your product-matrix repo on github too? | 15:08 |
| dhx_m | bug_resolve is a truly useless function | 15:09 |
| dhx_m | oh this is going to be a huge changeset | 15:13 |
| daryn | yours? or filters? | 15:14 |
| dhx_m | mine :) | 15:14 |
| daryn | :) | 15:14 |
| dhx_m | I want to fix Bug API now | 15:14 |
| daryn | the happy thing about mine is that the majority of it is completely new and i left filter_api in place for now | 15:14 |
| dhx_m | side by side? | 15:14 |
| dhx_m | good idea actually | 15:14 |
| dhx_m | I could do that with a new Bug API | 15:15 |
| dhx_m | "new" = the existing stuff... but with more valid OO | 15:15 |
| daryn | yeah...well, i removed the calls to filter_api on the pages i updated (which are most) but there are a couple of places that I wasn't so sure about | 15:15 |
| dhx_m | maybe call the class Issue instead of BugData | 15:15 |
| dhx_m | yep | 15:15 |
| dhx_m | sounds like a fair approach to me | 15:16 |
| Zwischenzug | Hello, How can I remove items from the "report issue" such as the "select profile" | 16:27 |
| nuclear_eclipse | daryn: the only mantis repo I have on github is the main maintsbt.git | 16:37 |
| daryn | ok. i think mantisforge is down | 16:38 |
| daryn | i was going to push a branch of your plugin for you to review with filter changes | 16:38 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I think we need to take mantisforge away from paul and put it on something a little more reliable... | 16:39 |
| daryn | :) | 16:40 |
| nuclear_eclipse | maybe if paul were actually *around* to fix these issues it wouldn't be so bad, but he's not here, he never checks his email, and he doesn't have any sort of monitoring system set up to let him know when things have broken | 16:42 |
| bajki | hi, are here any mantis team members ? | 16:42 |
| nuclear_eclipse | bajki: howdy | 16:43 |
| bajki | umm please tell me how cna i 'whisper', i'm not well familiarized with irc | 16:45 |
| bajki | (i'm using webchat.freenode.net so probably i need to whisper with commands or something) | 16:46 |
| Zwischenzug | Hello, How can I remove items from the "report issue" such as the "select profile" | 16:47 |
| nuclear_eclipse | Zwischenzug: you can do that as part of the configuration files | 16:49 |
| Zwischenzug | any idea on what I should look at to configure? | 16:50 |
| Zwischenzug | nuclear_eclipse: Is there a particular file and do I edit schemas? | 16:50 |
| nuclear_eclipse | config_defaults_inc.php has the default values; copy those into your config_inc.php and change the settings there | 16:51 |
| Zwischenzug | nuclear_eclipse: is it schemas that I need to edit? | 16:51 |
| nuclear_eclipse | no | 16:52 |
| Zwischenzug | nuclear_eclipse: After editing this file, do I need to restart apache for the settings take effect? | 17:03 |
| nuclear_eclipse | Zwischenzug: no | 17:08 |
| Zwischenzug | nuclear_eclipse: Thanks! I figured it out :D | 17:16 |
| nuclear_eclipse | congrats :) | 17:18 |
| daryn | nuclear_eclipse, dhx_m http://github.com/daryn/mantisbt/commits/filters | 17:37 |
| daryn | nuclear_eclipse do you mind if I push the product matrix repo to github? | 17:41 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I'll sue you :P | 17:43 |
| daryn | yeah, yeah | 17:43 |
| daryn | just trying to be respectful | 17:43 |
| nuclear_eclipse | no worries | 17:43 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I don't even have a copy of it myself that I could push up there for you to fork...=\ | 17:43 |
| daryn | heh | 17:44 |
| nuclear_eclipse | without mantisforge, 60% of my work is unavailable... | 17:44 |
| daryn | that sucks | 17:44 |
| nuclear_eclipse | def | 17:44 |
| daryn | nuclear_eclipse: http://github.com/daryn/product-matrix/tree/filters | 17:58 |
| daryn | master is there too | 17:58 |
| nuclear_eclipse | ok | 17:58 |
| daryn | columns and sorting are remaining issues we need to discuss at some point | 17:59 |
| nuclear_eclipse | sigh, the ohloh projects point to mantisforge too | 17:59 |
| paulr_ | dhx_m: exams over yet? :) | 20:49 |
| daryn | paulr_ what's up with mantisforge ? | 21:04 |
| * nuclear_eclipse knockns paulr_ over the head | 21:21 | |
| paulr_ | omm? | 21:37 |
| nuclear_eclipse | git.mantisforge.org is in ISE500 | 21:37 |
| paulr_ | oh oops | 21:37 |
| nuclear_eclipse | you really need to set up some sort of monitoring service or somethign... | 21:38 |
| paulr_ | I really need to stop being a muppet | 21:38 |
| nuclear_eclipse | or that | 21:38 |
| moto-moi | nah, this is more fun paulr_ :P | 21:39 |
| paulr_ | I allocated the ip i'm using in the vm to the host box last night | 21:39 |
| paulr_ | :) | 21:39 |
| nuclear_eclipse | /facepalm | 21:39 |
| paulr_ | ifdown eth0:1 | 21:42 |
| paulr_ | fixed :) | 21:42 |
| Draggor | Greetings! I'm having a spot of trouble with urls. I'm doing a lot of rewrite stuff on apache, so I need to hard code $g_path $g_icon_path and $g_short_path | 23:18 |
| Draggor | The images work, however I still get issues showing up | 23:18 |
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