Wednesday, 2010-06-30

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nuclear_eclipsedhx_m: around?14:51
RB__hello all15:44
RB__looking for some help on configuration15:45
darynRB__ post your question, if someone is around who knows, they'll answer15:46
RB__Ok, Trying to understand the Configuration Tool inside Mantis (Database Configuration) finally moved our old instance to te new. Cant anywhere on how to use the configuration tool correctly. trying to modify severity_enum_string for a project15:48
RB__from what i did before i had to modfiy a couple of places to change the severity15:48
darynyou can still do that in config_inc.php unless you need project specific severities15:50
RB__i do need to do it project specfic15:52
darynok...i'm not as familiar with that15:56
darynthe two variables are g_severity_enum_string and s_severity_enum_string - s_* is the localization string15:56
RB__yeah thats what i changed before, but i cant define either g or s in the configuartor16:01
RB__verifying now though16:01
RB__Configuration option "s_severity_enum_string" not found.16:02
RB__Configuration option "g_severity_enum_string" not found.16:02
RB__Configuration option "$s_severity_enum_string" not found.16:02
daryni think it defaults to add the g_ . the s_ might have to be done in the custom_strings_inc file as an array or something...not sure16:02
RB__ok, thanks for your help,16:03
paulrmoo18:33
nuclear_eclipsehi paulr18:33
paulrlo18:33
paulrtbh18:35
paulrre github18:35
paulrgit is shared18:35
paulrso it doesn't matter where we mirror to18:35
paulronly thing i'd say is it makes some sense to push to git.mantisbt.org18:36
nuclear_eclipsewell, the point is to still have a canonical place to point everybody at18:36
paulrcan always direct users to a github mirror18:36
nuclear_eclipseand my point is to do away with git.mantisbt.org18:36
paulrwe've still got git.mantisforge.org at that point mirroring stuff18:36
paulrI think whilst github is nice - we dont want users downloading raw zips of tags18:39
nuclear_eclipsewell, no, you can turn off that page18:40
nuclear_eclipseit just defaults to being on18:40
darynwhy do we care?18:40
paulrfrom my pov, I actually find the gitweb interface easier to use18:40
paulrbut that's a user thing18:40
paulrdaryn: as release builds != raw repo18:40
nuclear_eclipsedaryn: for one thing, downloading a zip of a tag means it comes with no built documentation for one thing18:40
darynyeah but...that's not really our problem is it?  i mean if the full deal is there and someone wants it without...who cares?18:41
nuclear_eclipseright18:41
paulrwe have to support it though to an extent18:41
paulranyway18:41
daryncan't we point gitweb at github repos?18:41
nuclear_eclipsefwiw, users could pull snapshots of anything from gitweb18:41
nuclear_eclipseno18:42
nuclear_eclipsegitweb requires looking at the actual repo data18:42
paulrI'm not really sure what driver is to kill git.mantisbt.org18:42
paulrfor commiting at least18:42
paulrI mean, I can tend to commit atm when i need without incidence18:42
nuclear_eclipsepaulr: it's not easy to manage if you want to add new developers18:42
nuclear_eclipsewell, compared to github, it's not easy :P18:43
paulrand we get new dev's how often? :P18:43
nuclear_eclipseand if we decide to add new repos, it's also easier to do all that through git18:43
nuclear_eclipseand on top of all that, like I said in the email, using github as our primary repo means there's an official method for maintaining your own fork and submitting pull requests18:44
paulrwell two method's as you can currently create a fork on git.mantisforge.org18:46
nuclear_eclipseyes, but requiring users to fork on mantisforge is a) not obvious or as simple/straightforward, and b) we seem to consistently have issues regarding whether mantisforge is actually usable at any given time18:48
paulrwell, only when server itself died ;p18:48
nuclear_eclipsenot just then...18:48
darynright...on multiple occasions18:48
darynand finding you was the only resolution18:48
nuclear_eclipsethere've been a lot of cases where it looks like it was working, but we couldn't push to it18:48
paulriirc that was a before server got upgraded18:49
paulrI dont recall any issues since then ;p18:49
paulrbefore it used to sometimes run out of ram trying to run unit tests etc18:49
darynbut we're still dependent on you18:49
darynwhereas github is a large managed service...that is free18:50
leetcode_06429I have a question with source control integration: I just installed the source integration plugins (meta, source control integration, subversion, websvn). The configuration page is accessible but I cannot find the link for setting up a repository. Can anybody give me a hint, please?18:50
nuclear_eclipseleetcode_06429: if you have admin access, it's on the repositories page18:51
paulrdaryn: I wasn't the only person with a logon to that box at one point18:51
paulrdaryn: I've kinda said anyone can have a logon18:51
nuclear_eclipsepaulr: you're still the only one that actually understands how any of that stuff works18:51
paulrthat might be more true18:51
nuclear_eclipsejust because we have a logon doesn't mean we can fix things18:51
leetcode_06429nuclear_eclipse: Thank you! I have admin acces but where can I find the repositories page?18:51
darynok...i didn't really know that but i still wouldn't want to have to troubleshoot it if i don't have to18:52
paulrthe main reason i'd be against changing the core git.mantisbt.org is18:52
paulrthat it breaks existing checkout's18:52
nuclear_eclipseleetcode_06429: if the plugin sare installed correctly, it adds a link in the main menu18:52
nuclear_eclipsepaulr: that's a rather worthless reason IMO :P18:52
paulrnot really18:52
nuclear_eclipseit's a single git command to change the origin remote18:52
darynpaulr: it isn't that hard to set up a new remote18:53
leetcode_06429nuclear_eclipse: Thanks a lot, I just found it!18:53
nuclear_eclipseleetcode_06429: you're welcome18:53
paulrfrom the point of view of http://git.mantisforge.org/18:53
darynplus you can use HG with github18:53
daryn:P18:53
paulrusing github probably helps as git.mantisbt.org can be less stable18:53
paulrfor pulling18:53
darynnuclear_eclipse: is it possible to point git.mantisforge.org at github?18:54
paulryou mean git.mantisbt.org?18:54
darynyeah18:54
darynthat18:54
nuclear_eclipseyeah, we can easily do some redirects18:54
paulrpoint git.mantisbt.org to git.mantisforge.org18:54
paulrhave git.mantisforge.org mirror from github18:55
paulrallow bi-directional commits from git.mantisforge.org back to github18:55
nuclear_eclipseI'd rather point git.mantisbt.org at github if that's going to be the canonical repository18:55
nuclear_eclipsebi-directional commits between two repos would just cause *lots* of headaches...18:55
nuclear_eclipseI'm fine with mantisforge being a read only mirror and forking point like it already is, but allowing people to commit to either place will just be insane to set up18:56
paulrnuclear_eclipse: GRR19:41
paulrThere was a problem serving the requested page.19:41
paulrUsually this means that an unexpected error happened while19:41
paulrprocessing your request. Here's what you can try next:19:41
paulrwhen trying to do an issue search19:41
nuclear_eclipsewhy'd you break it?19:42
paulrI tried to do a search in github :/19:42
nuclear_eclipsean issue search on github?19:43
paulrthink so19:43
paulrdunno!19:43
nuclear_eclipse /shrug19:43
paulrpos19:43
paulr:)19:43
nuclear_eclipsenever really did any searching from their system19:43
paulrto be fair, not sure i've had it error before :P19:44
nuclear_eclipseI know they utilize a lot of caching, so I wonder if the search took too long and the cache killled the request19:44
darynwhat were you searching for?19:44
paulrwindows19:44
daryni searched windows and got results19:45
paulrwhat time is it where dhx is ?20:36
daryn6:40 am ish i think...that's sydney anyway not sure what city he's in20:41
paulram or pm?21:08
darynnote the 'am' after 6:40 :P21:08
paulr:(21:09
darynhe was up late too. we were chatting around 3am his time21:10
paulrthat was 3 hours ago?21:15
darynsomething like that21:16
RB__going to check to see if anybody new can answer my question from this morning22:54
RB__is it possible to use the "Database Configuartor" in mantis to change the "severity_enum_string" at a project level22:55

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