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| kirillka | around? | 12:53 |
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| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: ping | 12:54 |
| nuclear_eclipse | hi kirillka | 12:56 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: mo. one question | 12:58 |
| kirillka | Can I in config set translate for custom fields? | 12:58 |
| nuclear_eclipse | not that I know of, custom fields are the one spot where we don't use lang_api to output the text, so without some additional support in the core or via plugin, I don't think it is possible | 12:59 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I have a meeting though | 12:59 |
| nuclear_eclipse | bbiab | 12:59 |
| kirillka | ok | 12:59 |
| nuclear_eclipse | back | 13:19 |
| kirillka | How unite plugins in github for mantisbt? | 13:31 |
| kirillka | or it's not possible | 13:31 |
| nuclear_eclipse | kirillka: we're not sure yet | 13:34 |
| kirillka | ok | 13:34 |
| nuclear_eclipse | paul is investigating using gitorious instead of gitweb for mantisforge, but nothing is set in stone yet | 13:35 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: where Paul. I don't see him too many times | 13:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | he only pops in for about 10 minutes at a time, it seems... =\ | 13:37 |
| nuclear_eclipse | it's really frustrating trying to dea lwith him lately.. | 13:37 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: can you add in wiki http://www.mantisbt.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10936&start=0 | 13:39 |
| kirillka | Trac to mantis converter | 13:39 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I can't add pages to the wiki for whatever reason | 13:40 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I hate the wiki we have right now | 13:40 |
| kirillka | :) | 13:41 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: I think you need reformat of structure of your site | 13:42 |
| nuclear_eclipse | how? | 13:43 |
| kirillka | unused part remove. needed change for integration all in one? | 13:44 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I'm not understanding what you mean | 13:44 |
| kirillka | You have: blog, wiki, forum, site, git, mantisbt. All not use one-place (united) auth. | 13:45 |
| kirillka | wiki don't update | 13:46 |
| nuclear_eclipse | oh, you mean for mantisbt.org? | 13:46 |
| kirillka | yes | 13:46 |
| kirillka | DokuWiki version: Release 2006-03-09 | 13:46 |
| nuclear_eclipse | yeah, I would agree | 13:47 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: Oh, I did this http://www.mantisbt.org/wiki/doku.php/mantisbt:related_tools | 13:50 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: Convertation - it's right word or not? | 13:50 |
| nuclear_eclipse | Conversion | 13:51 |
| kirillka | nuclear_eclipse: fix | 13:51 |
| atrol | kirrilka I added trac2mantis to wiki some time ago http://www.mantisbt.org/wiki/doku.php/mantisbt:mantis_recipies | 13:57 |
| kirillka | atrol: hi | 14:01 |
| kirillka | atrol: I thik in related tools mast be too? | 14:01 |
| kirillka | think* | 14:02 |
| alexsander | I have an 1.1.8 and a 1.2.1 in the same /var/www with different DB names... the 1.1.8 sends emails normally but the 1.2.1 don't... is there some config I need to change? | 14:38 |
| alexsander | is there any known email problem with 1.2.1 ?!? | 15:15 |
| alexsander | where do I find a 1.2.2 release? | 15:29 |
| alexsander | i've seen http://www.mantisbt.org/bugs/view.php?id=11862 | 15:29 |
| killefiz | alexsander: you have to read that message as "it has been fixed in the branch that will become 1.2.2" - 1.2.2 isn't released yet | 15:31 |
| alexsander | killefiz, so there's a patch or something? | 15:32 |
| alexsander | I also can't make it send emails... | 15:33 |
| alexsander | I have an 1.1.8 and a 1.2.1 in the same /var/www with different DB names... the 1.1.8 sends emails normally but the 1.2.1 don't... is there some config I need to change? | 15:33 |
| killefiz | alexsander: there are diffs on the page you linked to - they're under "Related changesets" | 15:34 |
| killefiz | wrt. emails - no idea. My mantis 1.2.1 emails just fine | 15:34 |
| alexsander | killefiz, ok | 15:34 |
| alexsander | killefiz, what I think it's weird is 1.1.8 emails fine, but 1.2.1 don't | 15:36 |
| L0rdsAli3n | nuclear_eclipse: please fix the gitweb plugin :) | 16:19 |
| L0rdsAli3n | or could you at least give a estimation when it will be fixed? | 16:25 |
| nuclear_eclipse | L0rdsAli3n: I'm very busy with more projects than Mantis, so at the earliest, maybe in a couple weeks.. | 16:29 |
| L0rdsAli3n | hmmm... What a bummer! | 16:29 |
| L0rdsAli3n | It's so a creat idea and as you said it will most propably be just a little fix to get it working with the new gitweb Version ... | 16:30 |
| nuclear_eclipse | L0rdsAli3n: it will require research, planning, and testing as well, to make sure that I don't break compatibility with older version of gitweb too, so it's not "just a little fix" | 16:31 |
| L0rdsAli3n | I see ... | 16:32 |
| alexsander | how could I debug the email feature? | 16:34 |
| alexsander | I have an 1.1.8 and a 1.2.1 in the same /var/www with different DB names... the 1.1.8 sends emails normally but the 1.2.1 don't... is there some config I need to change? | 16:34 |
| alexsander | L0rdsAli3n, nuclear_eclipse any ideas? | 16:34 |
| nuclear_eclipse | alexsander: there is a config option to enable logging for notifications, and that may help to figure it out, but most likely, the change stems from some config changes between 1.1.x and 1.2.x dealing with the new version of phpMailer | 16:35 |
| L0rdsAli3n | worked just fine for me and my mantis v1.2.1 | 16:35 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, what changes? | 16:36 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, you see I have the same PHP for both installations, in the same /var/www -- only the MySQL database is different, of course | 16:36 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I don't know off hand, but check the two versions of config_defaults_inc.php for phpMailer related settings | 16:36 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, thanks, I'll take a look | 16:38 |
| nuclear_eclipse | alexsander: also of note, if you happen to be trying to use SMTP with Gmail, there was an email on the mantisbt-help list a couple months ago describing how to configure that properly in 1.2.x | 16:39 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, that's not the case, I'm using localhost's mailer | 16:40 |
| nuclear_eclipse | ok | 16:40 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, I'm using an internal email in format "user@server" without dots | 16:49 |
| alexsander | checking "mailq" it's always empty but nothing is delivered | 16:50 |
| * alexsander is out for lunch | 16:50 | |
| * alexsander is back | 17:48 | |
| nuclear_eclipse | < alexsander> nuclear_eclipse, I'm using an internal email in format "user@server" | 17:48 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, is that a problem? | 17:49 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I wonder if phpMailer is somehow dropping those emails | 17:49 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, but they work for 1.1.8 in the same box | 17:49 |
| nuclear_eclipse | alexsander: unfortunately, I don't really know anything about how MantisBT operates with phpMailer | 17:49 |
| nuclear_eclipse | well, we updated the version of phpMailer in 1.2.x, so that is probably where the breaking change is | 17:50 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, but it's not working even out-of-the-box | 17:52 |
| nuclear_eclipse | alexsander: can you try out of the box using a non-local email address, like gmail or something? | 17:53 |
| paulr | evening john | 17:54 |
| paulr | how long you around for? | 17:54 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I'll be at work for a couple more hours | 17:54 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, I'll try again | 17:54 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, nothing! | 17:58 |
| nuclear_eclipse | =\ sounds like somehow phpMailer isn't getting configured correctly... | 17:59 |
| nuclear_eclipse | are you using SMTP to a local server, or sendmail? | 17:59 |
| alexsander | its the "localhost" configuration, straight with mail | 18:00 |
| nuclear_eclipse | oh | 18:00 |
| nuclear_eclipse | PHPMAILER_METHOD_MAIL? | 18:00 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, yes (just checked, it's the default) | 18:05 |
| alexsander | it's 0 on the 1.1.8 installation | 18:05 |
| nuclear_eclipse | hmm | 18:06 |
| nuclear_eclipse | then I really have no clue, other than to check logs from your mail client, and see if it ssays anything about rejecting a HELO or aything of that sort | 18:07 |
| nuclear_eclipse | perhaps your local MTA is rejecting relay for these emails or something? | 18:07 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, I'll check that | 18:08 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I know that my server's MTA will rejecting relaying messages from domains it doesn't control, including "localhost" | 18:09 |
| nuclear_eclipse | and if you haven't overridden the default from addresses that Mantis uses, it may be rejecting those emails | 18:09 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, but why it does work for the 1.1.8 mantis in the same box? | 18:09 |
| nuclear_eclipse | maybe the old phpmailer version didn't set the same email headers, so maybe it didn't trip your MTA's rejection circuits? | 18:10 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I know that email headers is one of the topics that prompted us to move to the newer phpMailer | 18:11 |
| nuclear_eclipse | I justdon't remember what exactly the update fixed, and I don't know how we actually use phpMailer... :P | 18:11 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, where are usually stored the MTA's rejection logs? | 18:14 |
| nuclear_eclipse | alexsander: usually /var/log/mail.log, or /var/log/mail.err | 18:17 |
| * alexsander is checking | 18:18 | |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, just did a test: I resetted my password on 1.1.8 (in the same box) and it worked, wrote in /var/log/mail.log a line ending with "status=sent (delivered to mailbox)" | 18:26 |
| alexsander | 1.2.1 is writing nothing there | 18:27 |
| nuclear_eclipse | alexsander: then I don't really have any idea, other than using xdebug to trace through the code and figure out where it's deciding not to send an email... =\ | 18:27 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, I'll check the config again, with a "tail -f " on mail.log | 18:29 |
| alexsander | would you suggest I use a nightly build instead of 1.2.1 ? | 19:00 |
| nuclear_eclipse | alexsander: it probably won't fix your problem, but it might be worth a try just in case | 19:01 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, first I'll drop the 1.2.1 database and install it again, out of the box | 19:02 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, ok, now I'll create a new account -- before even log in as admin | 19:06 |
| alexsander | I have to turn off "validate_email" in order to get local emails working | 19:12 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, some results: | 19:28 |
| alexsander | if I use an external email, the internal mailer tries to send, fails and then send the fail message to $g_return_path_email (an INTERNAL address in form username@server without dots) | 19:30 |
| alexsander | if I use an internal email it fails without any message (a silence fail) | 19:30 |
| alexsander | any hint? | 19:31 |
| nuclear_eclipse | alexsander: I don't think I can help you with that, sorry | 19:32 |
| alexsander | nuclear_eclipse, ok, thanks anyway | 19:32 |
| nuclear_eclipse | alexsander: my only suggestion is to ask on tha mantisbt-help mailing list | 19:33 |
| paulr | ipv6 is cool | 19:55 |
| nuclear_eclipse | paulr: ipv6 is complicated :P | 20:16 |
| nuclear_eclipse | wow, the "dogtag" usb key you get from the SC2 collectors edition is awesome :) | 20:24 |
| paulr | nuclear_eclipse: well | 20:31 |
| paulr | i've got a brilliant network setup atm for confusion | 20:31 |
| djSupport | Howdy | 20:37 |
| djSupport | AM i right in thinking all the config options are not set by default and you have to add them manually after install? | 20:37 |
| paulr | every config option is set to something | 20:47 |
| paulr | whether it's set to what you want :) | 20:47 |
| djSupport | where do I find it? | 20:47 |
| djSupport | the config | 20:48 |
| djSupport | in particular paulr sending of mails | 20:48 |
| moto-moi | config.defaults.php or something like that | 20:48 |
| djSupport | well how it sendfs mails not what it sends | 20:48 |
| * djSupport is a noob btw | 20:49 | |
| djSupport | it appears when a user registered he didnt get a conformation/activation email | 20:50 |
| moto-moi | just look at config_defaults_inc.php ? | 20:51 |
| moto-moi | and the settings you don't like, just override them in config_inc.php | 20:51 |
| djSupport | aha so... it gets config from that ^^^ but will overide with whats in config_inc.php | 20:52 |
| moto-moi | yep | 20:52 |
| djSupport | moto-moi: thanks I'll have a little look even though I aint got a clue what to change :D | 20:53 |
| moto-moi | I'm guessing PHPMAILER_METHOD_MAIL :) | 20:53 |
| moto-moi | just grep for that in the defaults file ;) | 20:54 |
| djSupport | I assume sendmail is better? | 20:56 |
| djSupport | I think my 2500 strong phpbb forum uses sendmail and that works | 20:57 |
| moto-moi | depends on your setup :) | 20:57 |
| moto-moi | I use mail() for a 300.000+ user forum, but sendmail will work too :P | 20:57 |
| * djSupport cringes looking at the massive config file | 21:00 | |
| djSupport | moto-moi: sendmail worked | 21:03 |
| djSupport | :D | 21:04 |
| moto-moi | :) | 21:04 |
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